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Author Topic:   Evolutionary Advantage of guilt.
happy_atheist
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Message 16 of 17 (181075)
01-27-2005 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by TheLiteralist
01-27-2005 4:05 AM


TheLiteralist writes:
Are such feelings unique to man? (As a creationist, I would expect that they are; we being the creatures with the knowledge of good and evil.) Do other societal animals--like sheep, wolves, deer, cattle, monkeys, flocking birds, schooling fish, bees, etc.--experience guilt?
Definately a question I'd be interested in finding the answer to. I'm not sure wether sheep or fish are deemed as having 'societies'. I know they live in groups, but are the interactions between individuals complicated enough to class it as a society? Maybe the sheep will surprise me Wolves I would think are closer. They have a hierarchy and each indivudal has their place. I would think apes/monkeys would be most likely to exhibit guilt, and maybe dolphins or whales. I'll have a quick scan on the internet, but I no longer have access to any journals so I'll probably miss all the interesting stuff.
TheLiteralist writes:
Are there genes, which code for guilty feelings? Which genes? How do these genes cause the individual to be capable of feeling guilt?
Well i'm sure the area of the brain where the feelings originate can be pinpointed fairly easily. I have no idea if it's possible to find a particular gene yet, i'll leave that for someone more knowledgeable to answer.
[TheLiteralist]Can evolutionists distinguish between fossils of the non-guilt-feeling organisms and the guilt-feeling organisms? Or can they say, "Oh, guilt began to evolve in the Ordovician?"[/qs]
Well i'd be very surprised if we can look at a fossil and determine its guilt potential, but if the gene that codes for guilt can be found i'm sure theres a lot of information that can be gleaned by studying lifeforms alive today.

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PerfectDeath
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Message 17 of 17 (181200)
01-27-2005 9:04 PM


guilt gene
well what i would think is that there is not just one gene that says "feel guilt".
It is probably a combination that you fell you have done something "wrong" what is determined to be wrong is probably lern from what i've observed. this is because when a child is young they do almost whatever they feel like doing and do not suddenly stop and think to themselves "ohhh dang maybe i should apologize for hitting him".
or maybe guilt is located in a part of the brain that has not developed yet.
i too would like some scientific data on this.

  
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