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Author Topic:   Why should evolution be accepted on authority?
PerfectDeath
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Message 36 of 166 (170021)
12-20-2004 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by berberry
12-19-2004 11:35 PM


Re: Scientists and car mechanics
not just christians there are muslums, jews, himdus... ect
but when i hear some new information or theory i remember it... then i go out into the world and see from my experiences IF the theory works for me... thats how i've been making my decisions sicne i was little. what i would like to see are varieties of these options because not everyone gets a choice it's either one or another... and usualy one is more appeasing because you got a knife to your head telling you to chose that one.
but hey thats who we are, we like to control... yes we do.
and stop with the abriviations... or make some library because i'm lost in what people say :'( so sad being new here.

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PerfectDeath
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Message 54 of 166 (170167)
12-20-2004 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by berberry
12-20-2004 3:58 AM


Re: Scientists and car mechanics
sorry i gess i ranted and got off track.
what i meant is that in one area it's not like EVERY choice is available because, were i live, the majority of people are christians and if you grow up in a christian family there is that pressure to be christian because you are pressured to go to church. even in school or work there is that pressure. and there are no areas to prectice budism, or islam.
but to tie this to evolution when you ask some one to explain something they tell you what THEY belive not just the possibilities. lets say you ask me something and i tell you my belife or opinion on the subject you are just getting one point of veiw no choices. same goes on in school there needs to be some DEFEATABLE opposition rather than undefeatable.
if not then evolution should just become a law.
and thanks for the meanings ^_^.
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PerfectDeath
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Message 121 of 166 (171165)
12-23-2004 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by robinrohan
12-23-2004 1:25 PM


Re: Confusion
we don't see christians bitching about T0E because ToE Directly contradicts the bible AND it does not serve then anny value. unlike when we found out the world was round sure they bitched bout it but when they got ti India and America they were like "well it IS there and were makin money."
also they say that evolutionists belive we came from apes... APES little smelly monkeys how can we degrade ourselves to say we came from them... the reassurance that we were made directly from God's image (this might be a big thing) and we were created supreme... rather than dirtly and weak.

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PerfectDeath
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Message 123 of 166 (171168)
12-23-2004 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by crashfrog
12-23-2004 3:36 PM


"Creationists are the ones that use fallacious arguments to convince. Don't you think we have a duty to raise the bar of the debate?"
O_o your going to sink to their level!!!
"s I said, I'll thank you not to speculate on my motives or expertise. It's the evidence that convinces me, not the authority. If you can't keep this debate at a non-personal level I suggest you withdraw."
EXACTLY thats the way to be. Go against the man how do you think evolution got were it is today. christianity was accsepted on athority at one time so science and evolution had to go against athority... i only belive in something like gravity because i jump and i fall makes sence to me... the earth being round... O_o it might not be the government could be controlling our education; therefore, i only accept it because it makes sence with the gravity thing... and i don't have the money to fly around the world :'( .

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PerfectDeath
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Message 128 of 166 (171214)
12-23-2004 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by crashfrog
12-23-2004 6:00 PM


Forcing to belive
You can't force people to belive in something, unless you are in a facist government, because it is free speach and free though... like how in the area were i live in there are neo-nazis who belive the holocause didn't happen. there are no laws stating that they cannot do that and even if there was they would still go against it. i'm a liberalist when it comes to peoples rights and i belive everyone has a right to do something as long as it doesn't hurt someone else. So why should it be accepted on athority? i think it shouldn't because, even though I belive in evolution and as much as i hate being critisized for it, people deserve to have their own belifes... even if they might have been forced or brought up with that belife all you can do is give people a choice and let them do their own thing... that doesn't hurt others.

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PerfectDeath
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Message 137 of 166 (171315)
12-24-2004 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by NosyNed
12-24-2004 12:45 AM


Re: Trustworthy Authorities
Then you get into trust. Can you trust someone to do that? I certanly do not. So, because of that I do not accept on athority.
also on note to my spelling and grammar I tend to type fast; therefor, i do not take the time to put in thouse corect words/grammar.

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PerfectDeath
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Message 147 of 166 (171498)
12-25-2004 10:34 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by nator
12-24-2004 8:13 PM


Re: Confusion
[QUOTE]Originally posted by schrafinator:
[B][quote]
quote:
also they say that evolutionists belive we came from apes...
...which we didn't.
Humans and apes share a common ancestor.
Modern apes and humans are both primates.
quote:
APES little smelly monkeys
Apes and monkeys are not the same thing.
quote:
how can we degrade ourselves to say we came from them...
Why do you denigrate any of God's wonderous creations?
The Bonobo chimps that are are our closest relatives are much physically stronger than we are, and far, far less violent than we are.
We could do well to emulate some of their behaviors.
quote:
the reassurance that we were made directly from God's image (this might be a big thing) and we were created supreme... rather than dirtly and weak.
...but humans are dirty and weak.
Certainly, we are not as physically strong as Bonobo Chimpanzees.
This message has been edited by schrafinator, 12-24-2004 08:13 PM[/B][/QUOTE]
1. for the most part i know that we didn't evolve from Apes... but i'm quoting what others said to me.
2. and a lots of people can not diferienchiate from monkeys and apes still i'm quoting the average person's response.
3. and finally the people I talked to about it obviously like to think themselves far suppirior than anny other species... egocentrics (think i spelled it wrong)
4. yet again people like to think they arn't dirty and weak.
so what it all comes down to are people riddiculing something that they do not understand... and they do not even understand themselves.

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