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Coragyps
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Message 16 of 20 (164159)
11-30-2004 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by jwu
11-30-2004 3:34 PM


If anyone of you knows a better (legal if course) way to get them, please let me know.
For Nature or Science, you can email me.
For Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, you can register for free at PNAS and get them, free, from 1990 to a year before present.
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Message 17 of 20 (164160)
11-30-2004 4:51 PM
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11-30-2004 4:44 PM


*bookmarks it*
Thank you, that'll be very helpful.
*begins reading random articles*
Regards,
jwu

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PaulK
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Message 18 of 20 (164163)
11-30-2004 5:55 PM
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11-30-2004 3:29 PM


I'm afraid that I'm no expert. However I don't see that it has any relevance to evolution versus creationism. Only YECs have any motive to even try to attack cosmology but the alternatives also acknowledge a vastly old universe so there is really nothing of any real use to them.
Looking at the letter itself the important word is "quantitative" - it isn't that there aren't fulfilled predictions it is that the numbers don't come out close enough. It may well be correct in that.
It seems to me that the letter is primarily the work of the supporters of slternative theories who want more funding for their work but sadly can only get it by knocking their main rival rather than putting forward to a superior alternative.
I did recognise a couple of the names - from past discussions I get the impression that Aarp is headed for irrelevance by clinging to his pet ideas despite the evidence (as Feduccia is over bird evolution but more so). So it is no surprise to see him on the list. Von Flandern has gone even further and may qualify as a full-fledged crank by now Lerner is the ony name that gave me any pause at all.

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Message 19 of 20 (164180)
11-30-2004 8:05 PM
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11-30-2004 5:55 PM


The actual temperature of the background radiation is also predicted. I can't remember exact values from the lectures, but I remember them being correct to within a degree or two (in kelvins).
Also, as was noted, the background radiation was not known about before the big bang theory. In fact, the lack of any known background radiation was used to discredit the theory if I remember correctly. I seem to remember it first being discovered in the late 60's (but I may be wrong about the date) by astronomers using a radio telescope. They discovered an annoying staticy hiss that they couldn't remove. They thought it was pigeon crap on the dish they were using, but that wasn't it. They found it in every direction they pointed the dish. Lo and behold, there was the background radiation
Added in edit: Ooops, I meant to make that a general reply rather than a reply to you specifically Paul.
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frank
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Message 20 of 20 (164412)
12-01-2004 3:55 PM


CMB discovery
was by Penzias and Wilson in 1965. Had to try shorten the link in case the ban quota for the day has not been met.
Cheers !
Frank

  
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