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Hi Paisano. Though my ideology is some different than yours, your post here was a refreshing oasis on this thread, otherwise loaded with a lota irrational rant by some disallusioned folks from America's far left.

What would be the near left for you? Like, the near left is anybody who only hates gays a little? Just curious.

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actually I see the marriage ammendment issue as good for america to discussI think the democratic party needs a better position on this and that it should be that we agree and go further, that it is a divine covenant between a man and a woman and their god(s).and that as such it is a religious issue that needs to be defined by each church according to their policies, while secular law should remove all reference to marriage from the booksand instead refer to living units or some other neutral name that can include friends living together to share expenses to communes to whatever people chose for their own comforts.this ammendment issue is the first step in forcing this to become the case, for once passed, it is a discriminatory definition that makes any law that uses it unconstitutional.let them have it eh?

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I would venture that the worst case would be a Supreme Court Justice. The appointment is for life and is irreversible. The religious nut he chooses will be in for a long time.Absolute worst case would be Ashcroft as that Justice.

~Applauds jar's post~ Don't forget - election day is just one of the more obvious times that we vote.***Previous poster's location ("Virginia, where your vote doesn't matter.") made me think to ask...Just curious (and tell me if this should be in another topic - I could have sworn I'd seen a thread about it recently but couldn't find it again when I searched for the word "electoral"), has there been a big clamor about the electoral college in other parts of the country before or after the election? Around here there's been a great deal of editorials about it since about a month ago; its design basically means that many Texans - on either side - feel that their votes don't count that much.This message has been edited by Morte, 11-03-2004 10:03 PM

Just a few thoughts about what direction this country might take and possible scenarios for the world...With Bush's popular vote and EV win,he has a clear mandate. I think he would feel justified for the direction he is taking the country and my feeling is that he will keep on going in that direction. Why would he change something that works (Ie. evidently the majority of voters agree with him.)He is probably going to try again to push through the gay-marriage ammendment; his supreme court appointees to replace those that retire (I think Rhenquist sp? is out and he has an appointment opportunity coming up). While he lacks enough of a majority in the senate to block a fillibuster (the republicans needed 60 to block a dem fillibuster) he has enough of a majority that he might be able to persuade some dem's to vote with the Republican's and block a fillibuster. I don't see Bush being concilitory to the democrats, in fact because of this election, I think it more likely that he will be even more conservative. He has also used his veto power and has overridden congress before.I think this might even re-energize the neo-con's. They're not stupid and I am sure they realize their mistakes, but I think they'll just become more secretive about what they do and how they run our government. I don't see anymore invasions being conducted, but I might watch out for selective bombings of suspected "nuclear sites", or "terrorist sites". I also think that North Korea and maybe even China might start smelling an opportunity to act while our military is stuck in Iraq. I'm surprised they haven't acted earlier really, but I think they were both biding their time for a clearer opportunity to act while we were stuck with our eyes somewhere else. China's direction is harder to see. They know they are behind in military technology with the U.S., and though they have dismissed the idea that they won't act against Taiwan because it would hurt their economy and thus their rise in technology, they must see that with our military stuck in Iraq and the Bush administrations reversal of decades of ambiguous support for Taiwan it is an opportunity they might not get again.Bush will definitly keep reversing the conservation of pristine lands (something no president has done for a very long time. Hell, even Reagan added land to be set aside as pristine, while Bush has allowed the rules governing these lands to be changed to allow oil companies to explore on and construst on.)Bush will definitly continue support for Isreal, it's the Birthplace of Christ for God's sake...hint...hint... The palestineans, possibly leaderless (as if they really had a leader) soon, will distend into chaos, allowing the Isrealies to say "Look, these people can't govern themselves and are terrorists. So we are justified doing whatevr we want..." Bush will support the Isrealies whatevr the world thinks of their actions. This will put more strain on the mideast and I think will just add to the recruitment of terrorists against the U.S. and Isreal. Bush, if I can believe the stories I have read throughout the web (I take many with a grain of salt), is targetting Saudi Arabia for regime change as well. Iran, Syria, N.K. or China might be a diversion, but if not, I expect a lot of support for regime change there (Think the Iranian Revolution...).Look for Ashcroft attempting to enact constitutional changes (IE. Pat. act 2) with support from this administration. Still tough but definitly easier with the dem losses and the mandate of Bushes win.

You've been had, and it cost you your vote.

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He's not dead. He's electroencephalographically challenged.The longest word in the English language is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.

Not the stuff they found in Iraq. Like most nerve agents, the chemicals aren't stable, and don't store for any long period of time. In other words they're rather hard to stockpile.When they found the Sarin in Iraq, two GI's got an unprotected faceful of it. The result was they missed duty for a day. Not exactly a "weapon of mass destruction", wouldn't you say?We - the US - has lost more chemical weapons than we've recovered in Iraq. That's right, we have unaccounted-for WMD's. Is Canada going to invade us?

well, osama bin laden.but sorry, my wording was unclear. i meant that he wasn't HELD responsible for it, and should be. if he'd listened to his advisors, it might not have happened.

actually, the official mormon church does not endorse polygamy. the people who practice it are extremists who have actually been excommunicated.

lol nice.lucky for me, i already have a canadian citizenship.

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stupid crappy slow connection!This message has been edited by zephyr, 11-04-2004 11:06 AM

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another dupe...This message has been edited by zephyr, 11-04-2004 01:24 PM