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How do we know God is "Good"?

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coffee_addict
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10-28-2004 11:42 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Gilgamesh
10-28-2004 11:23 PM

So far, I have seen many many posts in many many words saying the same thing as the following.
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How do you know god is all good?
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The bible says so.
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How do you know the bible right?
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God says so.
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Where?
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God says so in the bible.
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He's not dead. He's electroencephalographically challenged.
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The longest word in the English language is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.
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10-29-2004 12:26 AM 		Reply to: Message 6 by Gilgamesh
10-28-2004 11:59 PM

That's part of my point. My other point is that if you dip a lemon into chocolate pudding, put sugar on it, and put some M&M on it you will still have a sour lemon in the inside.
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I've seen WT write 200 posts that is the equivilent of putting 200 M&M onto the lemon. I have seen the rat dip the lemon into a big puddle of chocolate pudding. After several hundred M&M and pounds of sugar later, people generally forget that there's still a sour lemon there.
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Actually, I'm just amazed at how much sugar coating people like the rat and buz can put on the circular reasoning that only took me 4 sentences to say.
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I have no doubt that we will very soon see several hundred pounds of sugar and M&M in this thread. Be warned!
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He's not dead. He's electroencephalographically challenged.
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The longest word in the English language is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.
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11-05-2004 11:48 AM 		Reply to: Message 35 by Phat
11-01-2004 11:09 AM

Re: How do we know God is "Good"?
This is against my better judgement to respond, but...
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phatboy writes:
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That humans were created in the image of God and that God draws all people unto Himself...and that the fact that we see goodness in each other can be attributed to our original source.
Do you believe in another origin? Tell us how our goodness evolved.
And this has what to do with the topic? If you want a psychoanalytic thread, start one. You can also join a number of human origin threads.
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11-05-2004 11:50 AM 		Reply to: Message 59 by riVeRraT
11-05-2004 11:44 AM

the rat writes:
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What is a car? Good or evil?
Neither. It is something that was created for (1) profit and (2) convienience. It can be both good and evil. What's your point?
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11-05-2004 3:50 PM 		Reply to: Message 67 by riVeRraT
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the rat writes:
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Correct. Is it the makers of the car's fault if it is involved in an act of evil?
Wait a minute, didn't you say that all of god's creations are all good? You used a false analogy. Car makers didn't make everything, including free will and all of that. According to you, god did. It's like trying to ask "would an ant type up a 6 page paper on Hegel?"
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11-05-2004 5:06 PM 		Reply to: Message 75 by riVeRraT
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the rat writes:
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So it is strictly mans choice that determines whether something is good or evil, not God's
Um... uh... didn't you say that god created man also?
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A) All things are things that god created.
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B) All things that god created are things that are good.
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C) Therefore, all things are things that are good.
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This is simple logic, for crying out loud.
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11-05-2004 6:40 PM 		Reply to: Message 80 by riVeRraT
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the rat writes:
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Question, is free will a thing?
Question, is an earthquake a thing or is it once again manmade?
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11-06-2004 6:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 89 by riVeRraT
11-06-2004 10:28 AM

the rat writes:
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I know where you are going with this. Disasters of any sort are the most difficult to undestand. But remember, many things come from a disaster. Hero's are made, thieves, peoples generosity can shine, and a grave reminder of just how fragile life is.
Yes, along with over hundreds of thousands of lives, like the earthquake that rocked the middle east 2 years ago.
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But I do not understand why you would mention earthquakes after I mention free will. They have not to much to do with each other in this conversation.
You seem to dwell on the idea that bad things happen only because of human free will. Would you say that earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, etc. are good things since they were not a result of human free will?
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Hate world.
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Revenge soon!
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