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Author Topic:   The Divine Proportion: Does It Have a Materialistic Explaination?
crashfrog
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Message 46 of 49 (149323)
10-12-2004 12:45 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by JasonChin
10-12-2004 12:21 AM


especially when the authorities stretch back for hundreds or even thousands of years, with no refutation that anyone has mentioned.
But you've mistated the claims.
No one has claimed, not even the Greeks, that phi was a ratio found in all human beings. They simply asserted that it was the ratio found in ideal humam beings, without asserting that that ideal existed in anything but their statuary.
So your "authorities" don't even support your claims. No one but you has claimed that phi is found in all humans; the existence of humans in whom that ratio is not found proves you wrong. (It's called a "counterexample." You might look it up if you're unclear on the term. Counterexamples disprove arguments, even those from authority.)

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crashfrog
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Message 47 of 49 (149328)
10-12-2004 12:47 AM
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10-12-2004 12:34 AM


I am under the impression that there have been many authorities supporting the claim of the frequency with which Phi is found in nature, going back to the ancient greeks.
Your impressions don't count as authorities. Cite your source.

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Message 48 of 49 (149347)
10-12-2004 1:07 AM
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10-12-2004 12:24 AM


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JasonChin
No those measurements are the very foundation of scientific investigation.Whatever you may postulate the world to be like the only way to determine its worth is to make a measurement of it.
The only way to test the validity of a theory is to take a prediction that the theory makes concerning what a measurement of a phenomena that has not been tested yet should produce and compare it to the measurement that experiments produce.

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Dr Jack
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Message 49 of 49 (149398)
10-12-2004 5:40 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by JasonChin
10-11-2004 11:15 PM


Re: The Divine Proportion: Does It Have a Materialistic Explaination?
No we haven't. We've just had heresay and a few home-taken measurments.
How hard do you think it is to measure these things? A middle school kid could manage to get a decently accurate result with a measuring tape and a calculator.
We're not talking complicated science here.

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