Origin of Gods word

The bronze age herders had more time for silence and meditation because they weren't busy attempting to overthrow the science of their day, in the name of God, via the internet. db

Hmmm. Well, pretty much all of which I am aware begin with water, the prime element (according to ancient 'chemistry'). From this element, all others may be derived (according to Aristotle). So ... OK, essentially nothing. Gots to start somewhere. db

That is certainly true for the Eden story, where the LORD brings irrigation to a land short on rain.The first account is the exact opposite. As in the Egyptian version, there is nothing but water and a dry place is created in the midst of it.This was the first thing I noticed when I compared these chapters in order to confirm or deny that they are different. That was thirty years ago and I'm still learning new things about these two very different stories.db

For sailors, it's a matter of safety, of getting home again in one piece. "When will the tide be with us?" Are you sure?We don't really know when the first lunar calendar was created but we can be sure that predicting the tide is more important than predicting PMS. (well, maybe)The age of Mungo Man (AKA 'LM3'), the oldest human skeleton to be discovered in Australia, suggests that humans have been seafaring for 50,000 years or more.

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LM3 provides a minimum age for the earliest evidence of human capacity to make significant beyond-the-horizon sea and ocean voyages.

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http://arts.anu.edu.au/...rces/papers/courses/2004mungo3.pdfExcerpted from: Implications (third item from the bottom in the left frame)db

Wasn't God the source of the earth as well? And if so, then what are you trying to say?BTW: Spirit (spiritus) is Latin for Wind or Air, and is used in metaphor to describe things intangeable, such as intellect and emotion. Check it out in a Latin/English dictionary.In Hebrew, the expression: "Spirit of the LORD," is indistinguishable from: "Wind of the LORD." And "Wind of the LORD," is used in metaphor to describe an invading army! (Hosea 13:15,16)db

FYI:Menstruation is not controlled by the moon.You cannot accurately predict the onset of menstruaton.Women are not incapacitated by menstruation.Hungry Lions don't care what time of the month it is.The most direct, dramatic, and eternal phenomenon in our relationship with the moon is the Tide.Even today, with well published tide tables, sailors, ships and beachcomers are lost, for failing to note the tide.Predicting tides is a matter of life and death.db

I understand that some women are pretty good at guessing when menses will commence but to estimate "with considerable faculty" is not quite the same as to "predict accurately." Can your wife, for instance, predict the very hour her period will begin five years from now? I seriously doubt it. On the other hand, sailors can know, many years in advance, when the tide will turn. That is the ultimate beauty of predicting the movements of the moon. They know by counting the days, of course, and they can mark these days on the solar calendar. A little blood running down ones leg may be annoying and inconvenient, but certainly not 'incapacitating.' You mean like Sharks?
I think flies would be the biggest problem but then flies are always a problem, blood or no.
Predators know that there is blood in us. They don't have to actually smell it in order to find us attractive. Do you know of such a culture which independantly created a calendar of their own? While I believe the lunar calendar originated from a sailor's need to predict the tide, I believe it then evolved into something more useful to people everywhere. Only about half of all humans, I'd guess. Besides: The lunar cycle is not a 28 day cycle, AND menstruation is not in sync with the lunar cycle. We call in Monthly because it is approximately so. And, as I understand it, the 28 days is an estimate.

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Though the length and regularity of a menstrual cycle may differ, the average duration of a complete menstrual cycle is 28 days (though healthy cycles can run from 21-36 days). Pre & Post Ovulation in Your Menstrual Cycle - Understanding Fertility

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This cycle is not something upon which one can base an accurate calendar, and while Mesopotamian women surely found the lunar calendar helpful in tracking their periods, Egyptian women did the same with equal facility using the solar calendar. All one really need do is count the days. No need for anything more sophisticated than that.db

The lunar cycle covers about 29.54 days. Divide that by four and you get a period of 7.38 days. Rounding numbers to the nearest comfortable unit is something we do all the time. We, like the ancients, are willing to swap complexity for simplicity.We often base our calculations on a thirty (30) day month, even though we know that there are only four such months in our year.We say there are 365 days in a year, even though we know that the year is actually longer than that.We say there are 52 weeks in a year but when we multiply 7 by 52 we come up short. Inaccurate! But would you call our number choices 'arbitrary'?Detailed technical descriptions and discussions are confusing and boring to most people. Most of the time we'd rather think in round numbers. Who, after all, is likely to remember that the lunar cycle actually lasts 29.538 earth days? Or, 29.455 sidereal days? Who cares? Thirty days is close enough. And for most people's purposes, seven day weeks are close enough as well.Would you call our conventions arbitrary? If you are saying that the seven day week was an arbitrary choice, then I believe you should reconsider.db

I thought we were talking about development of the lunar calendar and it's relation to the seven day week. I cannot give substantial rebuttal to an unsubstantiated assertion. What makes you think the Aztek did no sailing? And what makes you think they developed their calendar independently of any seafaring society? In that case all you need do is scratch lines on the wall of your cave. That is one hypothesis. There's a lot more to a calendar than scratches on a stick (or piece of horn, actually).db

Harvest time is when the crop is ready. If you study the calendar of old Israel you may notice that the timing of various festivals is fixed; linked to sun and moon signs throughout the year; with the exceptin of harvest festival. The harvest festival begins after the harvest, rather than on any specific date. The timing depends on the harvest itself: the time when grains, grapes, etc. are ready to pick.It is impossible to accurately and consistently predict harvest time, no matter what calendar you use. Oh sure, there is a window of expectation; a range of dates in which harvest is likely to occur; but the calendar can't tell you when to pick cotton. Only the cotton can tell you that. Passover, on the other hand, begins with the first full moon following spring equinox, because that is the traditional date of the Exodus. It would be more accurate to suppose that the calendar was invented to predict Passover. (Not that I believe such a thing)db Edited for factual content.This message has been edited by doctrbill, 10-09-2004 09:27 AM

Crop success depends on a number of factors including the duration of daylight. In that respect the calendar is immensely useful. Success may also require a frost-free environment. In this case, the calendars of years past may be consulted for information about frost history. If one's crop would be damaged by frost, one may choose to plant after the latest known date when frost has occurred in the past. So, Yes. The calendar is useful in determining when to plant.db

The sun is available to everyone as well, unless you live in London, or Seattle. Seriously though, it's easier to create a lunar calendar than it is to make a solar one. Even so, the lunar calendar must be adjusted by checking it against the equinoxes and solstices. A purely solar calendar, such as the one invented by ancient Egyptians, is much more accurate, requiring very little adjustment by comparison.The most interesting thing about the Egyptian calendar, as it relates to this discussion, is that it had 12 months of equal length, divided into three 'weeks' of 10 days each. That seems pretty clever to me. They always knew how many days there are in month. No need to for grown men to incant nursery rhymes ... db

Hi Mangey Tiger,Thanks for your response.Indeed, even that clever scheme left a few days at the end. This was for them a sort of 'dead week.' Like at college, before final exams. You know?We might think of it as a Federal Holiday Week.dbPS. Get some sleep.

You believe on faith in someone elses interpretation?You don't believe on evidence you read in the holy word?Remember: - The apostle was not criticized for his doubt but rather rewarded with solid evidence.db