quote:Originally posted by EvO-DuDe: Creationists believe that the flood happened around 4500 years ago, or around 2500 BC. However, there seems to be a problem.
I've never seen a date this recent. Usually it is somewhere around 6000 years ago, 4000 bc.
The rest of your points still stand though, with a little bit of modification.
quote:Originally posted by EvO-DuDe: Ummmm.... creationists believe that the earth is six thousand years old. They believe that the flood happened somewhere between 2500 BC - 2300 BC. Well, that's what Answers in Genesis claims anyway.
quote:Originally posted by Tranquility Base: Creationists are not overly dogmatic that the flood was in 2500 to 2300BC but I would normally suppoose those dates. There are mainstream movements to bring forward some of the Egyptian dates a couple of hundred years due to other problems that they have. A tiny bit of wriggling room on both sides can solve the problem. It's interesting, extremely constraining but not a flood killer.
I disagree TB. Bringing forward those dates doesn't eliminate problem of a population developing from Noah's family to one large enough to build the many cultures contemporaneous with the ancient Israelites.
We've had a whole thread on that issue recenly. It truly seemed that the issue was very constraining but not impossible for the flood scenario. It depended on assumptions of number of kids and stuff like that. If I'm not mistaken you were involved in the thread (?)
I've been involved in several such debates. All of them have died off now. I put quite a lot of effort into demonstrating that there is quite a bit more than a little constraint going on. I looked up population growth statistics, food supply as effecting reproduction, etc.
quote:Originally posted by EvO-DuDe: Of course they were lying. Everyone knows that the chinese and the egyptians were big liars and nothing they said should be trusted. *rolls eyes*
I agree. I mean.... the guys wore makeup.... sheesh....