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Trump won 
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Message 436 of 440 (146657)
10-01-2004 11:06 PM
Reply to: Message 405 by nator
09-12-2004 11:26 PM


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If it isn't, why not?
It isn't because
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Not every fertilized egg becomes a human.
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Why does that matter?
I think I was figuring out when someone would know when to have an abortion.
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Why do you think that is somehow shady or something?
When it's so far down the line you can distinguish that's a living thing, when you start to see distinguishable features.
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When would that be in gestation, probably?
I don't really know, that can be a problem because so many things in science are not set in stone.

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Trump won 
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Message 437 of 440 (146658)
10-01-2004 11:10 PM
Reply to: Message 419 by nator
09-21-2004 9:34 AM


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...except when she isn't, or took reasonable measures to prevent it and they failed.
In those cases abortions are fine, right?
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Chris, do you then support the idea of collecting and searching the menstrual discharge of all women to find all of the unimplanted "future babies" so thjey get a chance to become humans and experience life?
I guess the 500th time is a charm. no

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nator
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Message 438 of 440 (146801)
10-02-2004 5:25 PM
Reply to: Message 437 by Trump won
10-01-2004 11:10 PM


[quote]The pregnant woman was responsible for the pregnancy.
...except when she isn't, or took reasonable measures to prevent it and they failed.
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In those cases abortions are fine, right?
But that isn't what you said.
You haven't been noting these instances. You have made blanket statements, such as "The pregnant woman was responsible for the pregnancy."
Thus, don't you think it's better to let each woman decide for herself what is best for her life rather than imposing your own opinions upon her? The consequences will be lived by HER not YOU, after all.
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I think "future babies" deserve a chance to become humans and experience life.
Chris, do you then support the idea of collecting and searching the menstrual discharge of all women to find all of the unimplanted "future babies" so thjey get a chance to become humans and experience life?
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I guess the 500th time is a charm. no
Then why do you keep repeating opinions like:
"I think "future babies" deserve a chance to become humans and experience life."?
Unless you're willing to define, quite precisely, what a "future baby" is, I will keep asking that question.

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Silent H
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Message 439 of 440 (146804)
10-02-2004 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 433 by Trump won
10-01-2004 10:50 PM


YOU ARE ASSUMING I BELIEVE ABORTION CAN BE WRONG BECAUSE OF MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS
I am stating that all beliefs regarding whether a gestational being is the same as a human being or not are based on metaphysical beliefs.
That means ALL positions. That means mine. So how can that be an ad hominem attack? That would require me to be attacking my own position as well.
The argument I was constructing is that since they ALL are based on metaphysical assumptions it is a violation of the constitution to enforce one over the others.
It is not ad hominem. Either learn how to use it properly or stop using it.

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Silent H
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Message 440 of 440 (146809)
10-02-2004 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 434 by Trump won
10-01-2004 10:57 PM


I did read it.
Then why are you repeating claims that were completely disproven by the article?
Lets start with abortions result in more deaths than childbirth. Where did you see that supported? Give the quote.

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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