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nator
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Message 233 of 254 (139534)
09-03-2004 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 225 by ThingsChange
09-02-2004 12:20 PM


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Convincing people to do something that cost them something (material or time) is difficult. It is a skill. Bill Clinton certainly has it. He's so good that he can take your wealth without your realizing it... and if fact, he can get many folks to go along enthusiastically!
Convincing people to do something that cost them something (material or time or human lives) is difficult. It is a skill. Bush, Rice, Powel, and Cheney certainly have it. They are so good that they can invade a sovereign nation that was not a threat to us without any evidence at all that WMD exist or they are connected with 9/11 or Al Qaida... and if fact, they can get many folks to go along enthusiastically!

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nator
Member (Idle past 2197 days)
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From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 234 of 254 (139538)
09-03-2004 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 217 by paisano
09-02-2004 11:14 AM


Re: health care
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I advocate the establishment of medical savings accounts, caps on litigation, and, most radically of all, making all forms of health insurance, public and private, illegal. This would remove much excess cash and overhead from the system. For example, MDs would be forced to charge more reasonable rates that are actually affordable and accept the more modest compensation of DVMs.
What if I need a bone marrow transplant that costs 50,000 and I don't have that much in my medical savings account?

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 240 of 254 (139932)
09-04-2004 6:03 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by Darwin Storm
09-03-2004 1:49 PM


Re: health care
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It is very telling that every arguement you have boils down to the fact that you think managers do nothing except steal, rob, and sit on their tail. First off, managers do play a pivotal role. They have to organize efforts, provided communication between different aspects of the company. Frankly, your concept of how any organization functions is deluded. You talk about bias, but your every response is indicitive of your own.
Well, speaking from my own experience in a very progressively-run company in which the staff come first and the customer comes second and the profits come third, I definitely agree that at least my managers work frigging HARD, and do crucial work in our organization.
I don't know if this is true in most companies, however, as most companies are not run anything close to how mine is run.

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