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Coragyps Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
the Kerry's are personally supporting buisnesses that have outsourced American jobs, etc...
Would you care to name a company that size that hasn't outsourced American jobs? Halliburton, maybe? Oh, maybe not....
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Hello, Coragyps. I, too, was struck by an obvious Republican supporter criticizing someone for out-sourcing jobs.
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
It all is quite interesting, that Kerry pressing his 4 month tour of duty, rather than his 35 years service record as a senator, in the Democratic Convention.
Will Kerry's spin doctors (Democratic Party) attack the messenger (the Vets), rather than the message. The message is that Kerry lied, its up to Kerry to prove he's not a liar, however its interesting Kerry distortion of his tour of duty might just be a coverup of Kerry's 35 year tour of duty in the Senate, his attendance record, and voting record, of sessions he never attended, recieving a salary for sessions not attended, etc...You can only respect Senators that fullfill their duties to the people that voted them to office to attend Senate sessions on their behalf, and the Swift boat Veterans that actually served out their tour of duty, and their testimony to the American people that Kerry has twisted the details (lied) about his tour of duty, etc.... Page not found - The American Spectator | USA News and Politics NEW YORK -- Winston Churchill often repeated Stalin's observation that "in wartime truth is so precious that she should always be attended to by a bodyguard of lies." And now that the Democratic National Convention has ended with Kerry's acceptance speech concentrating on his four-month service in the Vietnam War 35 years ago, rather than his service during the past 35 years, it appears particularly appropriate. This message has been edited by whatever, 08-19-2004 09:31 PM
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
its up to Kerry to prove he's not a liar, I heard that you were a drug-addict - it's upto you to prove that you are not a liar.
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Charles Knight, The bible says to have two witnesses, which was the reasoning for the 12 apostles who were witnesses of the resurrection of the Lord, but the Vets are living witnesses in our time, likely why the Democratic party will not attack their message, or sue the messanger (Vets), but so far they have threaten to sue media, but not the messenger, don't you find that interesting, etc...
P.S. My proof you have no witnesses, however, Kerry has witnesses that that have come forward that he lied, about his tour of duty.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
but the Vets are living witnesses in our time They weren't witnesses, though. It's been established that none of them served with Kerry. Moreover, the people that did serve with Kerry have consistently lauded his wartime conduct.
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Crash, Kerrys's press men admit he never was in Cambodia on Christmas eve, so who's telling the truth, the Vets that say he never was in Cambodia, or Kerry who spoke to Congress that he was, it would be interesting to see the scars that Kerry recieved for his purple hearts, and compare to the Vets testimony that treated Kerry with just a bandaid, for one of those scratches (wound's), etc...
I don't fault Kerry so much for wimpin out, or making video's for family, just fault him for saying he is a hero, when others actually served out their tour of duty. The Vets say that Kerry is the only man ever to wimp out of Quick boats, and seeing Kerry not fullfilling his duty to be present in the senate sessions, to earn his salary makes one question Kerry's integrity, etc... P.S. It should be obvious that Kerry is not fit for command, the evidence in totality, the video camera, Kerry's own diary testifying he was not in Cambodia on Dec 24th, on the date that Kerry said was seared into his memory, his own diary conflict with Kerrys searing memory, etc... This message has been edited by whatever, 08-19-2004 10:43 PM
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
Whatever...do you EVER read any of the links that you are given in rebuttal? It doesn't seem so. You continue to spout assertions that have been addressed already.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Asgara, The Quickboat Veterans are believable, the Veterans that I've talked too, are not going to Vote for Kerry, unfortunately some are not going to vote period, but now that might in actuality be good news, etc...
P.S. Suspect Kerry will continue to pretend to be a war hero in television add's, diverting attention away from his senate record however, the Veterans are not buying Kerrys an American hero, they hear the truth coming out of the swiftboat veterans statements, cause they too served, like my neighbor, and not just with a few bullets flying, but in actual combat, actually some veterans I know are still carrying bullets in their bodies to this day. I suspect the swiftboat veterans when they say Kerry fled the action and came back after it was safe is more in Kerry's character, like then who rescued the men on the boat that got mined, it wasn't Kerry because he fled, but upon returning rescued the man that fell off his own boat, because every other boat was rescuing the boat and those from the one mined. I think thats about how John O'Neil statement went on his interview with CBN, so the assertions will never be put to rest, the one that did Kerry flee the action or not, and those that he applied to get out of the quickboats, and then used questionable injuries to get purple hearts to get transfered stateside, that will never be put to rest, cause of the Vet that treated his wound, said it wasn't a wound, but less than a thorn prick. There is question that it was from Kerry own grenade launched, that would make it self inflicted metal stuck in his arm, not worthy of anything, etc...It makes one wonder if Kerry took a piece of grenade he launched and stuck it in his own arm, likely only Kerry and his maker know the truth, but whatever, he got all those metals without losing even one day vacation for an injury, that kind of says it all, etc...
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
Kindly point to the evidence you must have that O'Neil was there to have a valid opinion.
Kindly point to the evidence you must have that the doctor you are discussing was the one to treat him. Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1497 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Kerrys's press men admit he never was in Cambodia on Christmas eve He has not, to my knowledge, claimed to be. You're free to provide links to refute this, but since he hasn't told the story since the 80's, that might be hard to do. You're conflating several claims and claiming that Kerry's the one changing his story.
compare to the Vets testimony that treated Kerry with just a bandaid, for one of those scratches (wound's), etc... Dealt with that, though. The only one making this claim is a doctor who wasn't the one who treated Kerry.
It should be obvious that Kerry is not fit for command, the evidence in totality You don't have any evidence, though.
the video camera Kerry appears maybe for a few seconds in the 40 minutes or so of film he shot in Vietnam. That's hardly a man staging heroic battles for the camera - that's a young leutenant shooting tourism film on a 9mm he bought in the PX.
Kerry's own diary testifying he was not in Cambodia on Dec 24th Again, he's never claimed to be. He claimed to be being shot at by Cambodians at that time, and he was, according to his boatmates.
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
I guess I will have to buy to the book to quote the people that were there, and what these Vets input was to John O'Neils book, However, back to Kerry's part in outsourcing technologies to China, its quite interesting in that Mr. John Kerry played an important role for the outsourcing of satellight technology through Marcus, and its not surprising that Kerry is refusing to address his part of outsourcing this technology, and other technologies like crandberry technologies to China in the 1990's. It shouldn't be surprising that the official newspaper of the Communist Party of China, recently endorsed the senator from Massachusetts for president of the United States.
Access forbidden! According to the Boston Capital Website, the company acted as a China adviser for a "U.S. High Technology Corporation's technology-transfer efforts in the People's Republic of China. They were responsible for technology transfer for full-scale manufacturing in China of technologies in telecommunications and satellites. ... Each production package sells for $15 [million] to $20 million. The Corporation has successfully transferred these [satellite] technologies to several Chinese manufacturers now in production." It should come as no surprise that Marcus' partner in Beijing, CITIC, also owns a controlling interest in the Hong Kong-based Asia Satellite Telecom Co. Ltd. (AsiaSat). Founded in 1988, AsiaSat operates several communications satellites in the Far East bought from U.S. manufacturers including Hughes. According to Aviation Week and Space Technology, in addition to direct TV broadcasts, AsiaSat satellites regularly carry communications traffic for Chinese military units and Chinese military-owned companies. During the late 1990s, John Kerry traveled on a "U.S. trade mission to the People's Republic of China organized and sponsored by a private corporation." The Kerry trip to Beijing was topped off with a "banquet in Beijing's legendary Great Hall of the People." To prove the trip was a success, the Massachusetts-based firm of Boston Capital & Technology photographed Kerry in the Beijing Great Hall of the People. John Kerry frequently has stated that he has had contacts with high-ranking officials of foreign governments. Yet, the Kerry campaign is refusing to answer any questions about the candidate's privately sponsored trade trip to China or his relationship with Marcus. But it would appear that the presidential candidate has many friends at high levels in Beijing. The Chinese official Internet news outlet of the People's Daily, official newspaper of the Communist Party of China, recently endorsed the senator from Massachusetts for president of the United States.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
whatever, have you no knowledge at all of history?
Do you remember what happened in 1970 and who brought it about? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
hum..
Yahoo News - Latest News & Headlines All the swift boat vet tell the truth ? But then this earlier account was a lie.... This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-20-2004 07:36 PM
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Charles, Thanks for supplying the name of one of the Vets that was there, Van Odell, a gunner on PCF-23, one of the boats that came to the rescue of the stricken boat, its interesting that Kerry's boat fled, however Kerry did return to rescue the man that fell overboard, not of the boat that was mined, and that Kerry himself might of been responsible for writting up the report to say that there was enemy fire, likely it was friendly fire, that Kerry and his crew heard as they were fleeing the scene, when it became obvious no enemy fire was occurring, Kerry returned after the other swift boats had already rescued the mined boat. Do you have any witnesses that were not on the boat fleeing the scene that it was enemy fire, the true hero's appear to be those that stay the course on the boats rescuing the boat mined, etc...
P.S. If your watching Kerrys response, is Kerry when asked about outsourcing american technology to china, he simply refuses to respond, and when dealing with the swiftboats, is he refuses to acknowledge the message, likely why he has not sued the Swift boat Vets, is because he made up the story that he was a hero. The hero's were the people rescuing the boat that was mined (like gunner Van Odell), not Kerry who fled the scene. Yahoo News - Latest News & Headlines The incident featured prominently in an anti-Kerry television ad produced by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth earlier this month. "John Kerry (news - web sites) lied to get his Bronze Star," says Van Odell, a gunner on PCF-23, one of the boats that came to the rescue of the stricken boat. "I know. I was there." The Bronze Star controversy is also a major focus of an anti-Kerry book by John E. O'Neill, "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry," which will hit No. 2 on The Post's bestseller list this weekend. The book accuses Kerry of "fleeing the scene" and lying repeatedly about his role.
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