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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I thought this USA Today article was interesting:
No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-08-kerry-vets_x.htm quote: quote: I think that says it all. Saying that Kerry volunteered for the most brutal and dangerous campaign of the 20th century simply as a springboard for an election campaign - an election that he might not have lived long enough to run in - is simply incoherent. You don't run off to a shootin' war to generate an impressive political resume. No, if it's that you want, you join a cushy Air National Guard post and then take a few months off without telling anybody. Natch!
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
The man treating Kerry said one of his purple hearts was less than a thorn prick, he pulled it out with a tweasers, and no stiches were required, and none of Kerry's purple hearts required Kerry to miss even a day of action, truely Kerry wimped, being the only man to wimp out of his tour of duty. I'm sure the Vets too were scared for their lives, but they didn't turn tail, and wimp.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
The man treating Kerry said one of his purple hearts was less than a thorn prick Prove it.
none of Kerry's purple hearts required Kerry to miss even a day of action, truely Kerry wimped, being the only man to wimp out of his tour of duty. Hrm, I don't think most people would describe volunteering for action in a brutal and punishing war "wimping."
I'm sure the Vets too were scared for their lives, but they didn't turn tail, and wimp. Wimping would have been begging your dad to pull strings to get you moved to the top of a domestic Air National Guard waiting list, and checking the box "I do not volunteer for duty in Vietnam" on your enlistment papers. Wimping is when you can't even finish your Air National Guard stint. Getting sent home with some Silver Stars is not "wimping." I don't think that, if you're a Bush fan, you're going to want to through around words like "wimping". How many Purple Hearts does Bush have, again? How many Silver Stars?
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Crash, How can one not see Kerry wimpin as a flaw in his character.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Crash, How can one not see Kerry wimpin as a flaw in his character. If he had "wimped", as you said, I might see it as a flaw in Kerry's character. I do, after all, see Bush's wimping as a flaw in his character. But only a crazy person would describe volunteering for the Vietnam war as "wimping."
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Crash, Kerry likely thought he had what it took to be a swiftboat officer, but by his wimpin out, it only supports the claims of the Vets, that he used minor scrapes (cashed in these chips)to get out of service. Its no crime to marry into money, but that raises more questions if this was the reason Kerry married his present wife, do you think the reason Kerry married an older woman, was for her money, however, it probably doesn't matter, Kerry is pretty wrinkled up, though he appears to be looking better these days, suspect his wife is paying for him to be getting botox injections, or some such thing.
P.S. George is another topic, thought he enlisted in the National Guard, and was allowed to transfer to inactive reserve, he never left cause of fear for his life, and he's married to the love of his life. This message has been edited by whatever, 08-16-2004 05:04 PM
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: If this were true (and you have far from established that it is), I would rather have someone who actually volunteered for and participated in active duty than a alcohilic, coke-head fratboy who was a mediocre student, delinquent military pilot, failed businessman, war monger, and first class bald faced liar.
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: What a sexist prick you are. She is all of 6 years older than him.
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
If we want to talk about character, what about this?
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5619 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
It was a burning hot piece of metal, clearly that guy was exaggerating to say it was less then a thornprick. It appears to me you want to start the Vietnam war again tomorrow, since you don't seem to support Kerry having helped to stop it. 3 million not enough for you?
regards,Mohammad Nor Syamsu
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
1) How did you find that photo at that location (w/ a little searching it can be found elsewhere)?
2) What is that photo doing at a site devoted to the history of World War I? BTW, the orignal source is said to be the Yale yearbook (1969 as I recall, which was the year after GWB graduated). Moose
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Crash, Kerry likely thought he had what it took to be a swiftboat officer, but by his wimpin out, it only supports the claims of the Vets, that he used minor scrapes (cashed in these chips)to get out of service. How many Silver Stars does he have? You don't get those by sending in boxtops, Whatever.
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
If Kerry is breaking Federal law, why is he not being prosecuted, truly he should resign from the Senate, talk about not fullfilling his Senate obligations, heard he was a c student in college, is this a man that will take the effort on our behalf, etc...
P.S. I'm assuming Kerry had the talent to achive greater than a c average in college, and that he had no real excuses for not fullfilling his senate obligations, and that the vets are challenging his questionable purple hearts as wimpin out of the service too. http://www.25thaviation.org/johnkerry/ No-Show Senator Kerry Takes Home Full Senate PaycheckJonathan M. Stein Friday, June 18, 2004 John Kerry, the Democratic Party’s presumptive nominee for President of the United States, has been taking advantage of American taxpayers — and he should be ashamed of himself. Title 2, Section 39, of the United States Code clearly states that [t]he Secretary of the Senate ... shall deduct from the [salary] of each Member ... the amount of his salary for each day that he has been absent from the Senate ... unless such Member ... assigns as the reason for such absence the sickness of himself or of some member of his family." The plain and unambiguous meaning of this statute is that a Senator who misses work doesn’t get paid — just like ordinary Americans. Unfortunately, the Secretary of the Senate, Ms. Emily Reynolds, has improperly, and inappropriately, declined to carry out her statutory duty — i.e. to dock the pay of Senators who miss work. When pressed, Ms. Reynolds explained, in a response to a letter by David Keene of the Carmen Group, that since her predecessors in the position failed to carry out the law, she won’t either. This reasoning is absurd — and unlawful. An officer of the Senate is bound by the law as it applies to that officer. When the law states that an officer of the Senate shall do something, that officer is bound to carry out the mandate of the law. If individuals were free to ignore the law as they pleased, our society would fall apart. The Secretary of the Senate is no exception — she is not above the law. Her failure to carry out the mandate of Title 2, Section 39 is a clear violation of federal law. However, ultimate culpability does not end with Ms. Reynolds.Ignorance of the law, in American society, is never a valid defense to the commission of an unlawful act — thus, all Americans are charged with knowledge of the law. Lawyers, who are, ideally, learned in the law, should be held to a higher standard; though it sounds like an oxymoron, they are indeed held to a standard of lawyers’ ethics. A United States Senator, charged with promulgating the law, and especially a Senator who is a lawyer, thus, must be held to the highest standard of legal and ethical conduct. John Kerry is both a Senator and a lawyer. As such, Senator Kerry is charged with knowledge of the law and must be held to the highest standard of legal and ethical conduct. In this respect, Kerry is a miserable failure. John Kerry is charged with knowing that the Secretary of the Senate is to dock his pay when he fails to show up for work — and that there is no exception in the law for campaign activities. Thus, any payment made to a Senator in violation of Title 2, Section 39 is an illegal payment of funds from the U.S. Treasury and, legally speaking, theft of taxpayer money — John Kerry is presumed to know that these payments are illegal. Therefore, by knowingly accepting these illegal payments, Senator Kerry himself is breaking the law. While, of course, this rationale applies to all Senators, John Kerry warrants special condemnation: Senator Kerry is running for President and he has the most dismal attendance record in the Senate; Kerry has been absent, without valid excuse, 87 percent of the time this session! Ergo, John Kerry is the most flagrant offender — and everyone is doing it is not a reasonable excuse. Further, an ordinary American who is absent from their job 87 percent of the time wouldn’t merely be docked pay — that person would be fired! In the interest of restoring the rule of law, I have personally filed a formal ethics complaint against both Senator Kerry and the Secretary of the Senate with the Senate Select Committee on Ethics, which has jurisdiction over this matter. It is quite sad that it takes the efforts of a mere law student to force a candidate for the Presidency to obey the law that, if successful, he will be sworn to uphold himself. This matter draws yet another bright line between Senator Kerry and President Bush. When then-Governor Bush ran for President, he declined to accept his salary, as Governor, when he needed to campaign full time — even though Texas law did not require him to do so. On the other hand, though Unites States law requires Kerry not to accept his salary when he campaigns full time and cannot be present in the Senate, Kerry has opted to accept his salary illegally. Jonathan Stein is on staff at the Hofstra Law Review and has been published in the Washington Times, Brown Daily Herald, NewsMax.com and The Committee for Justice.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
heard he was a c student in college That's Bush you're thinking of.
that the vets are challenging his questionable purple hearts as wimpin out of the service too. Remember when I asked you to substantiate that Kerry's Hearts were "questionable"? Yeah, you still haven't done that yet.
John Kerry, the Democratic Party’s presumptive nominee for President of the United States, has been taking advantage of American taxpayers — and he should be ashamed of himself. Could you show me the article from 1996 where Stein makes the same argument against Sen. Bob Dole? Oh? You can't? As I suspected; another hypocritical non-objection. This message has been edited by crashfrog, 08-17-2004 11:54 PM
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Crash, Kerry tried to defer his drafting into Vietnam, went to school in Paris for a year, then tried again but this time the draft board said no, so he enlisted in the Navy.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/page2.html It appears that Kerry only has a bachelor of arts degree that he obtained upon graduating from Yale and that Mr. John Kerry did recieve a low C grade point, do you have any facts that this is not true. I mean he went that extra year of college in Paris, but apparently didn't obtain his law degree until much later in life, at Boston College. This little satire link infers Kerrys resume includes a low C average at Yale, I realize Al Gore was a middle of the roader too, thought GWB was middle of the roader too, but he did however go forward and graduate with a MB. A, from Harvard. I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. Unlike my counterpart George Bush, I have no higher education and did not get admitted to Harvard nor graduate with an MB.A http://www.camweb.org/bbs/culture/index.cgi?read=65076
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