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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
It's kind of interesting cause I don't hate John Kerry, the issue, is John Kerry the hypocrite that the evidence suggest. You can not but feel for the American people that will now be paying excessively for heating costs, this winter because John Kerry filibustered the drilling of oil in Alaska, etc...The drilling of oil in Alaska wouldn't of supplied all our oil needs, but if we drilled off shore florida, it would of been a buffer in respect to the price of crude, but we all know how its not about our needs but mother earths needs in Kerrys eyes, heard Kerry was even offended by wind turbines being an eye sore, etc...
P.S. Have you read the free chapter of the book from the link I provided. Its all about the evidence that Kerry is Unfit for Command, apparently Kerry went around command to recieve his purple hearts, its something that should be explored how he recieve them, its all suggestive that Kerry pulled some strings to get out of Vietnam, but his commanding officer refused to file for his purple heart, so what strings did Kerry pull to go over his commanding officer to get those purple hearts.
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CK Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
well I see lots of assumptions and claims in that post - instead of sending us all off over the net looking for answers, how about you back them up?
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: You do know that Kerry wants to greatly expand our development of alternative energy sources and fuel efficiency research and development so we can reduce our huge dependence on fossil fuels, particularly to elimiante our dependence upon Middle East oil, don't you? Seeing as Bush, Cheney and their oil industry buddies stand to make a bundle on any oil drilling in Alaska (not to mention the sweetheart deal Cheney's Haliburton got in Iraq which has the second largest untapped oil field in the world), combined with the deep, close ties between the Bush family and the Saudi family, I am not surprised that the current administration hasn't promoted reducing our dependence upon oil.
quote: Then why is he advocating their use? In the Northwest: Kerry's energy policy diverges sharply from Bush's
Kerry argued yesterday that the country should go in a different direction, combining new technologies with upgrading vital infrastructure such as the nation's power lines. He noted that America's largest wind energy farm sits on the Washington-Oregon border.
"I want to push technologies such as wind turbines, biomass and biofuels grids," he said. "Early this year, for instance, I went to a project funded by the University of Northern Iowa. They produce a lubricant made out of soy for use on railroads. It is 99 percent biodegradable, versus oil lubricants that are zero percent. Kerry also pledged to create a $20 billion fund for investment in energy conservation and efficiency. "We can set and meet a goal of getting 20 percent of America's electricity from renewable energy sources by the year 2020," said Kerry.
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Tell me, are you this skeptical of anything regarding Bush? The flight suspension, the cocaine use and alcoholism, the failed businesses, the strong ties with the Saudi royal family, the lack of ability to speak intelligently, the lack of WMD, the fact that bin Laden is still at large, the fact that the tax cuts he instated favor the richest Americans and incerase the tax burden on the middle class, the fact that he squandered the budget surplus into an enormous trade deficit, etc.? Do you feel any outrage about these things at all?
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
If you're wrong then you have called a courageous soldier a traitor. There is no coming back from such an error in judgement to regain your credibility, your words would mean nothing anymore, to yourself also I would imagine. I mean do you really believe what you yourself say about John Kerry? I doubt it.
regards,Mohammad Nor Syamsu
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Kerry's own press man said Kerry admits he wasn't in Cambodia on the days in question How would he know, exactly? Cambodia as it is now, or Cambodia as it was then?
I don't know how to prove it more conclusively Almost anything would be more conclusive than the consistent string of hearsay you've presented so far.
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
Syamsu, Did you read the free chapter of the book on the link provided, if you did, how can you say Kerry was being forthright in obtaining the purple heart.
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
crashfrog, If you actually read the free chapter of the book you wouldn't of questioned the Cambodia border, etc...
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johnfolton  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 2024 Joined: |
schrafinator, George Bush is not challenging Kerry about his military record, its the Vets that are challenging Kerry, etc...
P.S. If you were a military man, would you be voting for Kerry after reading about how Kerry got his purple hearts, then using this as a reason to get out of fullfilling his tour of duty. Who signed the paperwork (pulled the strings) so Kerry got those purple hearts, if his commanding officer said it was friendly fire, who is Kerry to say his commanding officer opinion was in error, etc...Is there one set of laws for John Kerry and a different set of laws for all others that served in Vietnam, etc...
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I don't want to turn this into an anti-Bush topic, but I will say...
Even if all the charges against Kerry are true, I still find GWB's record of dealing with things military (both pre and as President) far more distasteful. I suspect the majority of veterans share my view. Even if all considerations of Viet Nam, 9/11, and Bush's post 9/11 reactions are excluded, I find Bush's policies to be most distasteful. I pretty much don't like the way he has handled anything in his term as President. Tax and other economic policy, energy policy, environmental policy, and (?) - all bad. But these considerations do belong in a topic elsewhere. Moose {Edited to yet again change ID from admin mode} This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 08-15-2004 03:43 PM
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5620 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
I read it, all it says that there is some debate whether or not Kerry actually received the wound from enemy fire, and how he got awarded the purple heart for it.
About 3 million people violently lost their lives at the hands of other people in the war. Fact is Kerry saved more lives then most any vietnam soldier, by his political activities after the war. Mostly Vietnamese lives, but some Americans as well. The awarding of purple hearts was instrumental for that activity. What's also important is that he saved a lot of people from being any more complicit in murder as well, and I think some of his detractors might well be some of those whose innocense he kept, despite themselves. regards,Mohammad Nor Syamsu
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So far, you have only mentioned vets who NEVER SERVED WITH KERRY. And the author of your book is well-known to have a huge grudge against Kerry from 30 years ago. So far it looks like a smear campaign looking to make money, because why wouldn't he have raised these issues in the last 30 years?
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nator Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I ask you again, are you at all skeptical of GWB?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
If you actually read the free chapter of the book I'll be happy to read anything written by somebody who was actually there with Kerry. But I don't waste my time with what you've presented so far.
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MisterOpus1 Inactive Member |
Interesting side note that I'd like to bring out about the publishers of this book - Regenery Publishing:
A list of highly recommended books by Regnery Publishing, a subsidary of Eagle Publishing- the same people who brought you Robert Novak- more one-sided election year conservative dribble for the whole family! Let's take a look at some of the other books Regnery has to offer: Reckless DisregardThis best-selling author looks at the danger of electing liberals to be commander-in-chieffrom LBJ to Clinton to Kerry TurnaroundMitt Romney, governor of Massachusetts, tells this story of how he rescued the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics and guided it to success in the new age of terrorism. A Public BetrayedUncovering the worst about the institution in Japan designed to serve and inform the populacewith valuable lessons for the U.S. Inside the Asylum by Jed Babbin Hardcover - (June 2004) - $27.95 If John Kerry and Hillary Clinton have their way, Kofi Annan and Jacques Chirac will gain veto power over American foreign policy. Scared? You should be. It could happen. And in Inside the Asylum, former deputy undersecretary of defense Jed Babbin shows just how it could happen and why the UN deserves the nickname The Asylum. Endgame: The Blueprint for Victory in the War on Terrorby Thomas McInerney and Paul Vallely Hardcover - (April 2004) - $27.95 Tom McInerney and Paul Vallely are retired generals. They’ve devoted their lives to defending America. Now they’re military analysts for FOX News, privy to up-to-the-minute reports and inside sources. They know everything that’s going on within the Pentagon, the CIA, and other government agencies. They’re also smart. When other analysts were wringing their hands and whining about quagmires in Afghanistan and Iraq, they calmly predicted relatively easy and decisive American victoriesand they were right. In Endgame, they devote their experience and expertise to the question of how to win the war on terror... A Victor, Not a Butcher by Edward Bonekemper Hardcover - (April 2004) - $27.95 Civil War hero General Ulysses S. Grant has been unfairly maligned because of the bloody 1864 campaigns he conducted against Robert E. Lee to secure final victory for the Union. Victor, Not A Butcher takes you into those decisive campaigns to prove that far from being a crude butcher (as he has been characterized not only by Southern partisans, but by historians) Grant’s casualty rates actually compared favorably with those of other Civil War generals. Grant was an inspired military leader with a genius for issuing lucid orders, maneuvering his troops adroitly, and making excellent use of his staff. His perseverance, decisiveness, moral courage, and political acumen place him among the greatest generals of the Civil Warindeed, of all military history. The Real Jimmy Carterby Steven Hayward Hardcover - (May 2004) - $27.95 Jimmy Carter: America’s best ex-president? 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And he’s been thereleading the war on terror, directing its operations around the world in both open and covert missions, and bluntly focusing on one primary goal: killing terrorists. He is Donald Rumsfeld. His great fear was a second Pearl Harbor. When it happened on September 11, 2001, he led the charge to make sure it never happens again. Rogue State by William C. Triplett II Hardcover - (March 2004) - $27.95 Veteran national security specialist William C. Triplett II, coauthor of the bestselling Year of the Rat and Red Dragon Rising, exposes just how dangerous the mad regime of North Korea regime has becomea rogue state dedicated not just to developing nuclear weapons but to proliferating them. Nuclear weapons aren’t the only threat. Triplett shows how the North Korean regime sponsors global terrorism, and he dissects the twisted layers of the cult-based, family-run criminal enterprise of North Korea’s aggressive and secretive Communist dictatorship. A Time for Reflectionby William E.Simon Hardcover - (January 2004) - $27.95 William E. Simonquintessential American figure of the American century: Wall Street wunderkind, treasury secretary under Presidents Nixon and Ford, successful entrepreneur, U.S. Olympic Committee president, best-selling author, pioneering philanthropist, and devout Catholic. His insightful and often humorous autobiography, A Time for Reflection, includes a diverse cast of characters whose lives intersected with Simon’s: from the president and his advisers at the White House; to the highest realms of the Catholic Church (in particular, Cardinal Egan), to celebrities, like actress Meryl Streep; and sports figures, like basketball coach Bobby Knight. Anyone heard of this next book?: The Privileged Planet by Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay Richards Hardcover - (March 2004) - $27.95 Is Earth merely an insignificant speck in a vast and meaningless universe? On the contrary. The Privileged Planet: How Our Place in the Cosmos Is Designed for Discovery shows that this cherished assumption of materialism is dead wrong. Earth is a lot more significant than virtually anyone has realized. Contrary to the scientific orthodoxy, it is not an average planet around an ordinary star in an unremarkable part of the Milky Way.In this original book, Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay W. Richards present a staggering array of evidence that exposes the hollowness of this modern dogma. War Stories: Operation Iraqi Freedom by Oliver North Hardcover - (November 2003) - $29.95 The mainstream media are trying to discredit our victory in Iraq by saying there was no reason to take out Saddam. But Oliver North knows better. He was there. Contrary to some of the media’s willing inaccuracies, in War Stories: Operation Iraqi Freedom you’ll witness: * How an arsenal was provided to Saddam by so-called friends of the United States* Evidence of equipment used to disperse chemical weapons * The uncovering of huge caches of Iraqi weapons stored in hospitals, schools, and mosques * Evidence of terrorist bases and weapons in Iraq * The connection between captured terrorists and Saddam’s regime That's right folks, they have it all! From international xenophobia to revisionist history, with a little Christian-Thiest Manifest Destiny thrown in for good measure, not forgetting the obligatory embrace of literary Conservative iconostasis... Regnery Publishing, Inc. Giving you predictable conservative crap since 1947. Coming this month from Regnery Publishing: In Defense of InternmentThe post-World War II critics are challenged in this controversial justification of internment, and its implications for Bush’s war on terror. OutrageThe case against gay marriage, and how it threatens our institutions and our core values. |
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