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Hydarnes Inactive Member |
quote: Being biased isn't the problem. Nobody comes to the table free of predispositions. I am too. The problem I'm identifying is when you're prejudiced against something before you know enough about it to even profess a legitimate dispute.
quote: Wrong. I knew what it said, and my [admittedly] hypothesis was to reconcile the other biblical information that clearly defines more than one deity. The context DOES seem to indicate that it was referring to the golden calf alone, but could there be more to it?
quote: But there's more, and you keep ignoring that.
quote: I did. My contention? There were more "deities" present than just one golden calf. How were they manifested? Taking both the physical data from the mount into consideration (in context with the entirety of the evidence for Jabal Al Lawz as the mount), and the fact that Egyptians would portray numerous deities in relief on their altars (considering that Isreal had almost exclusively Egyptian traditions), it is reasonable to conclude that the other gods being referred to were etched into the altar--ergo, the petroglyphs we see. This message has been edited by Hydarnes, 08-12-2004 01:03 PM
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ramoss Member (Idle past 632 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
While I have not seen this specific video, I have seen many of the videos claiming evidecne, and only saw speculation, logical fallacies, and lies.
And, if this video has 'evidence', you can present it here. You aren't showing this 'evidence'.... could it be you don't understand it, but accept it because it matches your religious beliefs?
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ramoss Member (Idle past 632 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
here is something even more basic.
Disrespect is also earned.
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Amlodhi Inactive Member |
I would like a straight-up and effortless confirmation from the proponents of the Moses' altar theory:
Are the pictures provided by jar in his post #458 the petroglyphs from the Jabal al Lawz site? If so, (and a comparison with the picture section in my copy of "The Gold of Exodus" strongly indicates that they are), in Blum's book we are shown only one small section containing only one image; which they, no doubt, selectively chose to represent their preconception. Any surrounding glyphs are either clipped or blackened out. This manipulation of the data certainly doesn't enhance their credibility in my eyes. Thanks jar for the revealing pictures of this site. Amlodhi
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2322 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
Please, the name of this Saudi archaelogist, where and when he said this, where I can find the quote.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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ramoss Member (Idle past 632 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
You have to understand hebrew. Often, a noun will be in plural form, but the verb following it is in singular format. This means that the noun is singular, but is magnfied in importance.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Once again we see false personal attacks used to try to cover up the lack of evidence.
I'm not nitpicking at the Bible at all. What I am doing is asking your side to provide EVIDENCE to link the petroglyphs to the Golden Calf incident. SO far it seems is that all you have is tenuous links based on a vaguely bovine appearance and some comments allegedly made by an unnamed Saudi archaeologist which stop well short of actually backing it up. And according to this site the comments attrbiuted to the Saudi archaeologist aren't even true. http://www.ldolphin.org/franz-sinai.html
quote: And here are the references
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ramoss Member (Idle past 632 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
One of the items that is being pushed is the chariot wheel.
Now, there have been a number of claims by a variety of different people who claim the entire chariot wheel discovery is a hoax. Be as it may, that means that we should have independant verification of this discovery. Can anybody point me to a peer reviewed scientific article by Ron Wyatt on the chariot wheel, and how it was both discovered, and dated?
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CK Member (Idle past 4147 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Now this is straightforward - just a simple name.
If you can supply it - I'll be happy to look further into the author's work.
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CK Member (Idle past 4147 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Can anybody point me to a peer reviewed scientific article by Ron Wyatt The rest of the statement is not really needed. There are none on nothing.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
The problem is not prejudice on my part. The problem is that you use groundless personal attacks to dismiss dissent.
And if you did know what the Bible said you would know that your speculation that Exodus 32:4 was referring to petroglyphs carved on the altar was false. Are you saying that you knew that what you were saying contadicted the Bible ? And I'm not ignoring what you say - I am just pointing out that it has little relevance. Whatever it refers to - and it may well not be a genuine plural - there is nothing to say that it does refer to petroglyphs. Just because you jump to convenient conclusions does nto mean that the rest of us are compelled to - or are prejudiced in refusing to do so.
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Hydarnes Inactive Member |
quote: Are you going to address the evidence presented or are you going to keep up this laughable charade?
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CK Member (Idle past 4147 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
have you got the name of that expert for us?
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Hydarnes Inactive Member |
Which expert?
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CK Member (Idle past 4147 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
The ones mentioned in 484 and 486 and by you:
The Saudi Archaeologists know MORE THAN YOU CHARLES! I might also remind you that the Saudi Archaeologist that investigated this area stated CLEARLY that "these are DISTINCTLY Egyptian and these engraving exist no other place in Saudi Arabia"--yes, that is just what they said. So can we have some names? Can you state CLEARLY who those people are? This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-12-2004 01:19 PM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-12-2004 01:20 PM
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