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Topic: Is there a border dividing life from non-life?
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 477 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 28 of 132 (129863)
08-02-2004 7:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 22 by tubi417 08-02-2004 6:43 PM
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tubi417 writes: The molecules of life are much different than the molecules of non living material. Could you imagine teaching to a bunch of high schoolers that theres no difference between them and a rock?
This is technically true. However, a rock's molecular structure is as different to a sheet of metal as it is to a cell. By your logic, a sheet of metal must me somehow special. The Laminator
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 477 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 31 of 132 (129923)
08-03-2004 1:15 AM
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Reply to: Message 30 by tubi417 08-03-2004 1:02 AM
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I'm not saying that at all. There's definitely a difference between me and a rock. What I'm saying is the difference between me and a rock is essentially the same as the difference between a rock and a sheet of metal. In other words, there's nothing "special" or "godly" about me anymore than a rock, a sheet of metal, a diamond, etc... The Laminator
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 477 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 32 of 132 (129925)
08-03-2004 1:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 15 by jar 05-30-2004 4:18 PM
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Re: Do non-living systems
Depends on what you mean by waste. The Sun can be viewed as a big... huge nuclear reactor. The system gives off radiation into space. Would you define the radiation as waste? The Laminator
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 477 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 34 of 132 (129931)
08-03-2004 1:52 AM
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Reply to: Message 33 by tubi417 08-03-2004 1:21 AM
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Well, not really. Physically, yes. However, I have a consciousness that makes me a person. I have a survival instinct that tells me I'm going to sacrifice that rock if I have to to survive. By the way, don't even try to move the goal post by starting to argue that we're special because we have a consciousness and all of that. The original topic was the borderline difference between life and non-life. In other words, it would be more fair if we are comparing a single celled bacterium and piece of rock. The Laminator
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 477 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 36 of 132 (129938)
08-03-2004 2:16 AM
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Reply to: Message 35 by tubi417 08-03-2004 2:14 AM
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We're moving a little bit into the philosophy sector, but oh well. No, I don't feel that a bacterium do not have a consciousness. I know this. The Laminator
For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 477 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 38 of 132 (129948)
08-03-2004 2:50 AM
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Reply to: Message 37 by tubi417 08-03-2004 2:39 AM
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Well, tough. The Laminator
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 477 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 43 of 132 (130124)
08-03-2004 7:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 41 by Loudmouth 08-03-2004 1:50 PM
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That explained it better my post. The Laminator
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 477 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Message 48 of 132 (130736)
08-05-2004 3:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 47 by jar 08-05-2004 2:41 PM
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Re: Do non-living systems
Yes, but all living things are made up of either eukaryotic or prokaryotic cells. The Laminator
For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!
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