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Topic: Great Debate challenge: Exodus Revealed
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 1 of 28 (130445)
08-04-2004 7:22 PM
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We have seen a number of threads looking at the claims surrounds The Exodus Revealed Video collapse because neither side has been able to stick to the point. I therefore propose the following 2 on 2 debate: 2 supporters of the claims made by Ron Wyatt as relating to the exodus are to submit a piece of evidence for debate using the following format:
EVIDENCE ITEM 1: What is it? 1)WHICH LAB CONDUCTED INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION? 2)WHEN WAS THIS CONDUCTED? 3)WHAT TESTS WERE PERFORMED? 4)WHAT WERE THE RESULTS OF 3? 5) WHERE IS THE DOCUMENTATION AROUND THE VERIFICATION PROCESS? AVAILABLE? Note we are not discussing any of the following:
Ron Wyatt as a person — the fact that he may well be brave, clever, dedicated have no bearing on the material evidence. The actual video itself — this is a debate about the veracity of evidence, not a video about the evidence Any other claims of Ron Wyatt — those are not relevant to the matter at hand. In terms of posting, this is by strict rotation: I post this first message (as above), a supporter then proposes some evidence using the format above. the other supporter can then post a supporting message. I or yaro then post a rebuttal.followed by a supporting post by Yaro/myself. the two supporters then post again. This order then repeats. This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-04-2004 06:23 PM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-04-2004 06:24 PM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-04-2004 07:28 PM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-04-2004 07:29 PM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 2 of 28 (130447)
08-04-2004 7:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by CK 08-04-2004 7:22 PM
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I feel that those questions are the sort that we should ask of any evidence, I welcome comments to make the debate as fair and as open as possible. I would have liked one to be Lysimachus but for some strange reason, he feels unable to meet such strict requirements in terms of evidence. Is there anyone else who would like to step upto the plate? I am willing to change it to one on one if needed. This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-04-2004 06:27 PM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 4 of 28 (130453)
08-04-2004 7:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Buzsaw 08-04-2004 7:29 PM
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The thread would still be open for reference - look what happened to the follow-up thread that I posted, it decended into nonsense within 3 pages! Look at your own thread, the last ten pages were mostly shouting.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 7 of 28 (130466)
08-04-2004 8:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 5 by Buzsaw 08-04-2004 8:11 PM
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If you want to debate this - sign up. If you don't have any to add to the structure of the debate - I would ask you refrain from posting here on this topic. This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-04-2004 07:19 PM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 9 of 28 (130473)
08-04-2004 8:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 8 by Yaro 08-04-2004 8:26 PM
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added - strangely the other side seems short of people - strange considering all of the evidence they had...... EDIT: However people leave busy lifes and I'm sure someone will step up in the next few days. This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-04-2004 07:37 PM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 15 of 28 (130580)
08-05-2004 5:36 AM
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Reply to: Message 12 by Buzsaw 08-05-2004 12:02 AM
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Ah it's my attitude - strange that considering I wanted to discuss evidence. I find it odd that no-one has stepped up to the plate. This thread would be ideal for showing us all the evidence around the exodus without wandering off into side-topics, rhetorical debate or abuse. The evidence would speak for itself, me being "sour" would be neither here or there. Another supporter claims to have "masses" of evidence - yet he was unable to answer the questions in the first "open" thread I started on this and is unwilling to raise to the challenge here. whatever could it mean? This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-05-2004 04:38 AM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-05-2004 04:39 AM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-05-2004 04:41 AM This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-05-2004 04:45 AM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 16 of 28 (130595)
08-05-2004 8:09 AM
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Reply to: Message 15 by CK 08-05-2004 5:36 AM
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I am away
I am away on business untill sat - Yaro IS me untill I get back - if the debate starts before then, she can take both of our turns. She can also agree and make changes to the structure of Post 1 - however I think that the basic questions are both fair and logical. Surely two supporters will step upto the plate by sat? This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-05-2004 07:09 AM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Re: Topic reopened
Now generally I would be chumping at the bit to get into this BUT...... the creos don't like me and this affects their ability to debate. Therefore can we have two "anti-videos" step forward?
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 25 of 28 (134023)
08-15-2004 7:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 24 by CK 08-14-2004 7:06 AM
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Re: Topic reopened
bump
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CK
Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 27 of 28 (134028)
08-15-2004 8:59 AM
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Reply to: Message 26 by Brian 08-15-2004 8:52 AM
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Re: Topic reopened
Having just read your thread - yes you are right, your premise does invalidate the video. I think all of our "pros" are feeling a bit low at the moment due to the heavy shelling they took towards the end of the exodus thread (Reduced to made-up experts!). Maybe best to leave it for the moment.
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