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Eta_Carinae Member (Idle past 4400 days) Posts: 547 From: US Joined: |
I deliberately used the word cult because people get irate about it.
Yet if you get the dictionary out it usually leads off with the definition that 'cult' means:
Main Entry: cult Pronunciation: 'k< Function: noun Usage: often attributive Etymology: French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate -- more at WHEEL 1 : formal religious veneration : WORSHIP 2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents 3 : a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents 4 : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator 5 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion See you are so blinded by your dogmatic belief you cannot even use a word correctly and fell for my trap. NOWHERE IS BIBLICAL MENTIONED IN A DICTIONARY DEFINTION OF CULT. You are lost in a non-intellectual morass of dogma. This is why critical thinking and logic are completely lost on you when it comes to sifting through Wyatt's nonsense. NOWHERE IN THE DEFINTION OF CULT IS A CHARISMATIC LEADER MENTIONED. Are you just dumb? More knocking of Cathoilcs yet you belong to a tiny cult based on the babblings of the Whites back in 1863. Your group is an anachronistic bunch of heretics according to most Christian groups. Ellen White - visions from God - probably hopped up more like. You need an education in how to use a dictionary. If all your research is so clumsy no wonder you believe this Wyatt tripe - Mmmm wasn't he a cultist of your ilk too? Your bullshit filter is inoperative.
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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 380 Joined: |
Charles, it is not right for you to ask the admin to remove Jim's topic. He is addressing issues that were raised concerning the SDA church back in the first thread, and he never had the chance to properly reply. Since that thread is closed, what choice does he have? You don't let people just say things and not reply because it is "off-topic". Let Jim get his reply off his back, and then we can continue back on topic.
~Lysimachus
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JimSDA Inactive Member |
Charles, if people are going to use it against him that Ron was an SDA and that they think it's a "cult," then I have the right to defend Ron and show that SDAs are NOT a "cult"!
I've done so, now we can go back to the Exodus topic! This message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-04-2004 03:01 PM
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JimSDA Inactive Member |
Eta_Carinae passionately writes -- "NOWHERE IN THE DEFINTION OF CULT IS A CHARISMATIC LEADER MENTIONED."
Oh really? Take a look at point #4 in your definition! "4 : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator" It's "promulgator" is the charismatic leader! DUH! Jim Jones had his cult -- David Koresh had his cult -- and whether you like it or not, the Catholic Church has its "pope" -- bingo, a leader at the head of the organization that ignores the Bible who claims infalibility when the Bible proves him wrong regarding nearly every doctrine! It's just that simple -- there can be small "cults," and there can be large "cults" -- now can we get back to the topic of this thread? This message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-04-2004 03:14 PM This message has been edited by JimSDA, 08-04-2004 03:15 PM
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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 380 Joined: |
Eta_Carinae,
I lost a post in response to you because the Admin closed it just as as I hit "submit". I'll try and repeat what I originally said. I said that it is wrong of you to be assuming and comparing Ron's discoveries with SDA's scientific methods. Both the SDA church and other SDA indpendent ministeries disagreed with Ron Wyatt. And although Ron Wyatt believed in SDA doctrines, he was separate from the organization. Ron's discoveries are Ron's discoveries, so don't go comparing them with SDA scientific methods. We have Moller who joined these discoveries, and he is no SDA. Former astronaught Jim Irwin, Bob Cornuke, Larry Williams, Viveke Ponten...none of them are SDA...so bogus with your criticisms.
quote: Your statement is drowning in overwhelming ignorance when it comes to knowing true SDA doctrines. Absolute shame on you for calling the SDA church a "cult", when everyone knows the Catholic church could be technically "considered" the BIGGEST CULT OF ALL! Now I don't go around saying that, but if you technically look at the dictionary definition, you'll see, just as Jim pointed out, that there are "big" cults and "little" cults. Catholics believe that if you don't believe EXACTLY like them, YOU'RE A HERETIC! The SDAs...they've killed persecuted how many people? "0". Statistical analysis shows that the Catholic Church martered, slaughtered, burned to death at the stake, put people on the rack, sawed people in half...a total of 65 Million Christians throughout the entire Dark Ages! Here we have TRUE BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIANS WHO ARE TRYING TO WORSHIP GOD...THE HUAUGONAUGHTS, THE WALDENSESE, HUNGARIANS, BOHEMIANS, ALBEGENSESE, ETC. ETC....and the Catholic church just hunted them down like wild animals...smoking them out and killing all the woman and Children. AND YOU THINK THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT A CULT AND THAT WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO REFUTE THEIR BEHAVIORS??? What TOTAL FAILURE YOU ARE! This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 08-04-2004 03:12 PM This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 08-04-2004 03:17 PM ~Lysimachus
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Eta_Carinae Member (Idle past 4400 days) Posts: 547 From: US Joined: |
It says cure of disease. And it does NOT use the word Charismatic.
You meant it in the sense of the Moonies - nothing to do with disease. You are wrong. Plus you fell for the trap to begin with because of your dogmatic belief.
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Loudmouth Inactive Member |
quote: Jim can start another thread, just as Charles did.
quote: Yes you do, this is how the threads are set up here.
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Eta_Carinae Member (Idle past 4400 days) Posts: 547 From: US Joined: |
I'm only doing this because you can't help yourself but slam the pre-eminent Christian church on the planet accounting for some 55% of Christianity - and when you add in the Orthodox and Anglicans some 855 of Christianity.
I have nothing really against the SDA church. Sure they seem a tad fundie and some odd beliefs about Sunday' but what the hell. It's just you guys are so full of hatred towards Catholics I wondered how you would like it back. It seems you can give it but not take it.
You are the most ignorant fool when it comes to knowing true SDA doctrines. Absolute shame on you for calling the SDA church a "cult", when everyone knows the Catholic church is the BIGGEST CULT OF ALL! Now I don't go around saying that, but if you technically look at the dictionary definition. Catholics believe that if you don't believe EXACTLY like them, YOU'RE A HERETIC! The SDAs...they've killed persecuted how many people? "0". Statistical analysis shows that the Catholic Church martered, slaughtered, burned to death at the stake, put people on the rack, sawed people in half...a total of 65 Million Christians throughout the entire Dark Ages! Here we have TRUE BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIANS WHO ARE TRYING TO WORSHIP GOD...THE HUAUGONAUGHTS, THE WALDENSESE, HUNGARIANS, BOHEMIANS, ALBEGENSESE, ETC. ETC....and the Catholic church just hunted them down like wild animals...smoking them out and killing all the woman and Children. AND YOU THINK THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT A CULT AND THAT WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO REFUTE THEIR BEHAVIORS??? What TOTAL FAILURE YOU ARE! See you do it again. You're mad at me and slam the Catholics. It's so bloody funny that you rubes are so easy to predict. By the way I am not a Catholic, or a Christian at all. I prefer not to prostitute my intellectual abilities at the altar of foolishness. I think SDA and scientific method are mutually exclusive by axiom.
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JimSDA Inactive Member |
Eta, I guess you just don't understand that the definition of a word like "cult" can change over time -- and I gave you my definition of it, and more than one of us here is telling you that the papacy qualifies!
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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 380 Joined: |
I really don't want this thread to close. Guys, let's just stay on topic. We're dealing with Ron Wyatt's Discoveries and Lennart Moller.
From this point forth...let's stay on topic. *you know how tempting it is when someone starts something off topic to want to respond to them, so please understand Admins* ~Lysimachus
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CK Member (Idle past 4153 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Right - this is a general reply - since shouting at each other seems better than topic on the top and you now have got the topic closed in 15 minutes I am going to suggest the following.
I'll take any two wyatt-drones in a straight "strict" two on one debate - same first post as this one. How does that sound Admin (I can't remember which forum this occurs in)? Basically I'm calling you out - put up or shut up you bullshitters. This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-04-2004 03:26 PM
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Neither of these have anything to do with the Exodus video.
But even if they did...
So far you have not produced any evidence. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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JimSDA Inactive Member |
Eta writes: "It's just you guys are so full of hatred towards Catholics I wondered how you would like it back..."
Not true. There are a lot of good Catholic Christians out there, most of them no longer murder people in dungeons anymore -- Adventists merely study the doctrines of the Bible and point out that the Catholic Church is NOT following the Bible! Which is part of the papacy's problem, they think that they are better than God or the Bible -- they got this silly idea from the Bible supposedly saying that "whatever Peter binds on earth will be bond in heaven," so they ran with the idea and changed all the doctrines and started locking people up in dungeons and killing them by the millions if they disagreed with them! Hey, I'm glad you're not a Catholic! But you're also not a believer in Jesus who died for your sins, which isn't good . . .
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JimSDA Inactive Member |
Oh yeah, Charles -- calling us "bullshitters" really shows that you can participate in an unbiased, level-headed debate . . .
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