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Author Topic:   The Bible: Literal or Figurative
Loudmouth
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Message 14 of 40 (130099)
08-03-2004 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Hangdawg13
06-24-2004 12:51 AM


Re: Can Someone Please Read My Post?
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The Bible was written by men guided by the Holy Spirit so that every jot and tittle is the way God intended it to be.
Maybe so, but that doesn't mean that God wanted Genesis to be literal. Or are you saying that God is incapable of using metaphor and hyperbole?
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Since it is "god-breathed" it is absolute truth.
Absolute truth and literally true can be two different things. Jesus spoke in parables that held absolute truth, but the people and actions in those parables absolutely didn't happen, nor did they have to happen for the parables to hold absolute truth.
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I believe in the Bible is found the absolute moral and spiritual truth.
And where do we lose those truths if Genesis is metaphorical?

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Loudmouth
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Message 15 of 40 (130100)
08-03-2004 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by nipok
08-03-2004 4:35 AM


Re: I don't see a problem (part 3)
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I submit that the holy texts are figurative works because had God tried to relay the true nature of the world and universe with scientific explanations, the holy texts would not be comprehended by the masses.
Very good point. As you say, even today people have a hard time understanding the theory of evolution, much less astrophysics and quantum mechanics. Given the inability of creationists to even understand the mechanisms behind the theory of evolution, this would seem to be the reason that God used figurative language instead of a literal play-by-play.

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Loudmouth
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Message 22 of 40 (130309)
08-04-2004 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by almeyda
08-03-2004 11:11 PM


Re: Can the Bible be Figurative?
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If there wasnt a literal fall, in a literal place, by a literal man. Then what fall are we talking about? Jesus shouldnt even have a reason to save mankind.
Jesus said that "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Nowhere does this require a literal place, event, or human. The fact is that we all sin and therefore need saving.
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Sin is the reason why we see death, bloodshed, disease and a cursed world.
Or it may have always been that way. Do you have evidence of what the world looked like before the "curse"? Bloodshed is a common occurence throughout the animal world, such as carnivores catching prey. Disease can be found in every creature, human and non-human. A "cursed world" explains nothing, since we do not have a non-cursed world to compare it to.
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Before this, God made a perfect world.
Actualy, I think God said "It was good" not perfect. Right now, I look out at the world and think "It looks good", therefore no change has occured.
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Gods plan is to save mankind from the judgement on sin through Christ.
And that plan is not changed if Genesis is figurative instead of literal.

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Loudmouth
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Message 37 of 40 (131018)
08-06-2004 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Hangdawg13
08-06-2004 1:14 AM


Re: Can the Bible be Figurative?
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Without proof either way, I don't think its good to be so dogmatic about it.
Which begs the question of why creationists are so dogmatic about their stance. If there is no proof one way or another, why do Bible literalist insist that they are true? Ifen is simply stating that without proof he will not accept the claim, which is a very logical and fair stance. We do the same every day with claims that are not supported by proof, such as sasquatches and UFO's. It is not so much that we are claiming it is untrue, only that it is unproven and therefore not accepted as true.

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