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Author Topic:   Problems with an Infinite Universe
Eta_Carinae
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Message 43 of 95 (129989)
08-03-2004 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by nipok
08-03-2004 2:45 AM


What a load of crap!
You start off by butchering Olber's Paradox and then it descends into technobabble.

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Eta_Carinae
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Message 47 of 95 (130226)
08-04-2004 2:18 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by nipok
08-04-2004 1:51 AM


It's late and I'm off to bed but here goes..
When two atoms bounce the outer shells of the electrons hit at a high rate of speed. The leptons inside and the sub particles that make up the leptons are actually what bounce. Inherent in this collision and those like it are the forces that destroy and create universes. An infinite chain inwards and outwards of universes being created and destroyed with no beginning and no end and no creation to the entire process.
This is a quote of yours from your earlier post. Do you really want this nonsense dissected?
Leptons inside what? Electrons are leptons - leptons have no constituent particles (that we know of - and whatsmore there are good theoretical reasons why they may not.) What is inherent here? What relation does this have to "forces" that destroy and create universes? What "forces" are these? What creation and destruction of universes have you observed? What infinite chain?
You see what I mean. One little section of your post and it's all gibberish that makes no point and even less sense. I'm sorry if this offends you but it is nonsense. You are stringing words together that you don't understand.
Another example
I think that the approximate diameter of our known universe is about 160 billion light years or so
Where did you get this number? This is erroneous too.

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Eta_Carinae
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Message 51 of 95 (130536)
08-05-2004 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by nipok
08-05-2004 1:13 AM


Until you learn a little particle physics....
no more responses from me.
First Electrons are not Leptons. They as you know are two very different particles. Leptons make up electrons.
ELECTRONS ARE LEPTONS. Do you get this.
Repeat after me - ELECTRONS ARE LEPTONS.
Now repeat this one:
ELECTRONS ARE POINT PARTICLES - they have no known constituents.
DO A WEB SEARCH ON THIS - get of your arse and learn something. Don't give me a hard time because you are ignorant on this topic. That is why last night I took one paragraph of yours and ripped it apart.
The six leptons are: electron, muon, tauon and their associated neutrinos.
Until you at least make an effort to learn the basics, bugger off!

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Eta_Carinae
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Posts: 547
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Message 53 of 95 (130540)
08-05-2004 1:35 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by AdminNosy
08-05-2004 1:32 AM


Re: Try polite please...
Sorry - I'm just grumpy as hell tonight. I've had food poisoning for the last 24 hours so it got me grumpy.
I know others on here know this stuff - could someone else inform this guy that he is commpletely wrong here. Electrons are leptons.
Man, a one minute web search would cure his problem.

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Eta_Carinae
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Message 65 of 95 (130856)
08-05-2004 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by nipok
08-05-2004 8:36 PM


But...
you are positing an extra structure to the Universe that is not required. You are neddlessly complicating things - sort of an anti-Occams razor.
You only augmment a model with extra structure if it helps you explain an observation or experiment.
What possible basis do you have for adding this hypothetical?

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