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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Did you know that you can feel but not see the two vestigial tarsal bones on either side of the large main bone on a horse's leg? They articulate with the knee joint and are about 6-8 inches long, and they float a fraction of an inch away from the cannon bone, medially and laterally, connected only with soft tissue. Quite often, a young horse will come up very lame because he has struck one of the so-called "splint bones" on the inside of one leg with the opposite hoof. It becomes very inflamed and painful. Traineres will often put protective wraps or boots on the front legs to prevent such injury. In fact, if you look at my avatar picture, you will see that I have put splint boots on Crockett's front legs. Anyway, eventually, if rested, the horse will heal itself by laying down bone to fuse the splint bone to the cannon bone, but this takes a lot of time and the horse may be quite lame initially. Sometimes, if a horse repeatedly pops splints, he will develop a lot of bone scar that irritates the tendons in the area, making the horse permenantly lame unless the bone is surgically removed. If Equus Callibus didn't evolve from multi-toed ancestors, why would those splint bones be there? This message has been edited by schrafinator, 07-24-2004 04:53 PM
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Whale's and shark's tails are not similar at all. Here is a whale's tail. Notice how it is oriented. Whales propel themselves by moving their tails up and down. Notice also that it is symetrical from side to side.
Here is a shark's tail. Notice how it is oriented. Sharks propel themselves by moving their tails side to side. Notice how it is not symmetrical from top to bottom.
This message has been edited by schrafinator, 07-25-2004 09:26 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Please define "kind". It is not a scientific term, so I don't know what it means. Specifically, I'd like to know how to tell the difference between various "kinds". For instance, are bonobo Chimanzees andhumans the same "kind"? Are my housecat and Bengal Tigers the same "kind"?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So, according to you, Newton's laws were all "just speculation or history. Not science.", is that correct?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
There are some serious misrepresentation of Evolutionary theory in your cut n paste.
quote: Strawman. Why is this a problem? Nowhere in Evolutionary theory is it predicted that fossils from any species have to be found in one place.
quote: Strawman. Again, Evolutionary theory does not predict that all members of a lineage's fossils must be found in exactly the same place. You do know that the arrangement of continents wasn't always the one we have now, don't you?
quote: Strawman. There is no "evolutionary rule" which states that creatures must get larger.
quote: Please define "kind". That is not a scientific term, so I don't know what it means. Specifically, I would like to know how to tell the difference between "kinds". Are Humans and Bonobo Chimpanzees the same "kind"? Are my housecat and Bengal Tigers the same "kind"?
quote: Please explain why this is a problem for Evolution.
quote: Well, were they a new "kind" or not? The fossils are readily available, and have been for decades. How do you know if they are another "kind" or not?
quote: Strawman. Evolution is a bush, not a ladder. Evolutionary theory does not predict that a parent species must completely die out before it's daughter species can exist. It is predicted that many branched-off species will be contemporary with the parent species.
quote: OK, this is just stupid. As intelligence increases for any animal with a brain, so do the number of brain surface sulci. To make the cattle/hyracotherium brain fold connection and extrapolate a more likely special creation is so painfully uneducated and ignorant I can hardly believe it.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: In rereading this bit, I just realized that it is even more wrong than I originally realized. Whoever wrote it really is completely ignorant of what they are trying to criticize. There is no way to tell how many sulci (brain folds) an animal's brain has by looking at the inside of the skull. The inside of the human skull, for example, is mostly smooth, only having a few ridges. Humans are second only to dolphins in the prepoderance of sulci on the surface of our brains.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
A reply to posts #84 and #102 in this thread would be much appreciated.
This message has been edited by schrafinator, 07-28-2004 09:14 AM
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
A reply to posts #84 and #102 in this thread would be much appreciated.
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