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Author Topic:   Paleocurrents: the 'diverse' features of the GC were laid via rapid, correlated flow
Joe Meert
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Message 106 of 109 (12703)
07-03-2002 9:44 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Tranquility Base
07-03-2002 9:27 PM


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1. A non-catastrophic senario must explain the alternating slope and flatenss. Without rapid flooding the explanations require the same SW slope to appear 30-50 times over the same vast region.
JM: What is the slope (gradient of the Mississippi river? Rapid flooding is not necessary. All you need is a water supply from the NE. It need not be catastrophic or rapid, just steady.
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2. Parallel stream beds over half a continent are consistent with flooding. Floods end as streams of course. In our scenario the rapid currents are causally related to the uprooting of the vegetaiton that became the coal seams. The association of a repeating slope and coal seams are utterly coincidental in your scheme
JM: Baloney, as I mentioned the overall paleoslope on the eastern side of a mountain range is to the east and on the western side it is to the west. All you need is a general flow from the NE toward the SW. You're trying to hard to rescue the Gilgamesh myth.
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Joe Meert

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Message 107 of 109 (12708)
07-03-2002 10:11 PM
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07-03-2002 9:44 PM


Joe
It is extremely clear that I am asking you to explain the cyclic appearance and disappearance of the same slope repeatedly. Of course I know streams flow down slopes. You are ignoring the 30-50 shallow seas that laid the fresh-water shale directly above the sandstone.
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Minnemooseus
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Message 108 of 109 (12712)
07-03-2002 10:25 PM
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07-03-2002 10:11 PM


I don't have any further response at the moment, but I do wish to say:
This discussion seems to be happening with essentially identical content at two different strings (or is it more?). I strongly suggest that the cyclothems discussion be confined to the "Non-marine Sediments" topic, which currently (and soon to be paleocurrently
) is at:
http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=7&t=18&m=185#185
Psycho Moose
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Message 109 of 109 (12713)
07-03-2002 10:27 PM
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07-03-2002 10:25 PM


Agreed.

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