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Relative Motion (A Thought Experiment)

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07-23-2004 4:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Tony650
07-23-2004 12:59 PM

Sounds like you're on your way to special relativity.
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07-24-2004 1:26 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Tony650
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Now the question is...Can the Earth move? I don't mean can it be moved...I mean, can the Earth, in any sense of the word, be said to be "moving"?
It is possible, hypothetically, if we ever find a way to detect the ether.
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07-24-2004 1:39 PM 		Reply to: Message 14 by Tony650
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...but wasn't the ether hypothesis abandoned long ago?
It wasn't abandoned. It was just given up.
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We know that light is both particle and wave.
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07-24-2004 3:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 17 by Tony650
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You mean it's still considered a legitimate theory (or at least hypothesis)?
It's not.
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I always thought it was one of those long dead ideas like the steady state theory.
It is.
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Well I must admit I'm surprised. I honestly had no idea that the concept was still given serious consideration.
It's not.
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The problem with the ether hypothesis was that it wasn't proposed because of some kind of direct evidence. It was proposed because it was thought to be necessary. Unfortunately, even the hypothesis itself makes it hard to find any evidence to support its existence. How can you even detect something that's supposed to be able to go through everything without a problem?
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I always thought that the particle/wave duality of light showed how the ether was not necessary. As I understood it, light being able to travel as particles and waves, is capable of travelling through empty space, whereas a mere wave requires a medium through which to propagate.
Yes, you are correct. However, do you really know what the duality of particle/wave nature of light is? It's an interesting concept, but it can only be shown mathematically and no more, just like the dimensions beyond our space-time.
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It seems that I misunderstood. That's what I get for being an "amateur scientist".
No, you have not misunderstood.
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Please feel free to set me straight on this.
You mean you're gay?
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07-25-2004 2:33 AM 		Reply to: Message 22 by NosyNed
07-24-2004 4:04 PM

Re: Two slit experiment
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The dual nature of light (and all matter) is demonstrated experimentally by the two slit experiment.
Not necessarily. Young's experiment only confirmed the wave-like nature of light. However, it gave rise to the concept of field.
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07-25-2004 3:25 AM 		Reply to: Message 29 by Eta_Carinae
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Re: Two slit experiment
Sorry about that, then.
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Do you happen to know who first proposed it? Or did it just come out of the blue?
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07-25-2004 1:53 PM 		Reply to: Message 31 by RingoKid
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Re: Two slit experiment
What about experiments done in a vacuum?
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07-25-2004 2:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 33 by Maxwell's Demon
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Re: Two slit experiment
I wasn't asking about the Young experiment. I was talking about the concept of field. If you read the post I made before that, it clearly stated that Young started the experiment.
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07-28-2004 12:35 PM 		Reply to: Message 60 by Dr Jack
07-28-2004 10:42 AM

Re: Center of mass
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(And don't worry about it; relativity makes no sense, much like Quantum theory).
If Einstein comes back from the dead, he'd bitch slap you for saying that
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08-02-2004 4:30 PM 		Reply to: Message 82 by Tony650
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Re: My background
Hey Tony, I'll tell you what. Once I'm back sitting on my throne in heaven from my field trip here on Earth, you'll be the first sentient being to "know" everything I'll know about dimensions. Also, I'll be granting any request you have, so think hard about what you want. Who knows, I could have a fatal car accident tomorrow!
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