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Message 3 of 14 (124763)
07-15-2004 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by DC85
07-15-2004 3:36 PM


We're listed at Google and Yahoo (meaning that searches return links to this site), and possibly a few other search engines. The site's first year was spent mostly inactive, I actually considered not renewing the domain name, but activity picked up a little once the Google listing was obtained, and it picked up some more when Yahoo switched the clubs over to groups. Activity really took off when I added a page of links to all message pages, causing search engines to list all message text.
Without this page of links the message pages are not otherwise visible to webcrawlers, but whether this is necessary is a function of the type of bulletin board software being used. Many bulletin boards don't even store the messages as HTML files, instead generating the message pages on the fly with CGI scripts. We'll be switching to this approach sometime later this year, and I'll modify the links page to instead use references to the CGI scripts.
The listings at Google and Yahoo were accomplished by filling out their on-line forms, you'll have to poke around, I don't recall where they are.
I also spent some time building content, and this seemed to help bring searches to the site. The biology and geology glossaries are some of this content, but I haven't worked on content for a very long time, focusing most of my effort on improving the software.
Another thing that helps is having links to your site from other sites. I'm on the list at Talk.Origins, and they have a form somewhere at their site for requesting to be listed. I know I'm listed at other sites, and in the discussion board listings at Google and Yahoo, though I didn't do anything to get on these lists. If you do a Google search on "link:" it will find every page that links to your site. Talk.Origins is the only website where I requested a listing. I sent email to ICR, but never heard back.
I'll make you a deal. You update my site map page and my discussion board page, both of which are woefully out of date, and you can add your site to the list of discussion boards. Once you're on that page, search engines will be sure to find you. They seem to scan my site once every couple weeks.
Good luck!

--Percy
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Message 9 of 14 (125425)
07-18-2004 9:33 AM
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07-17-2004 1:54 PM


You can get copies of the HTML for the site map and discussion board pages by going to them and clicking on "View->Source", but the full HTML pages are actually automatically generated from partial HTML files, so I'll email them to you.
The site map page needs to have all the links updated to be correct. If you have trouble finding the correct path to a page, check the navigation bar at the site first, then if it's not there check with me. I'll either know where it is, or know that it doesn't exist anymore.
The discussion board page needs a full update - I'll bet many of the Creation/Evolution sites mentioned on that page no longer exist, or have moved. For example, some Yahoo Clubs sites might have become Yahoo Groups sites. The page needs links to current Creation/Evolution discussion boards, and be sure to include your own.

--Percy
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Message 11 of 14 (125634)
07-19-2004 9:14 AM
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07-18-2004 11:09 PM


DC85 writes:
do you need my e-mail address?
I already email'd it yesterday morning to your email address of record here at EvC Forum. If that is no longer a valid address then I'll need a current one.

--Percy
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