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Author Topic:   The Book of Revelation, Hallucination, and Heresy
Nasa
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Message 30 of 57 (125142)
07-16-2004 10:05 PM


,..... " If you can not believe the writings of Moses, then how can you believe me". Johns gospel.
No one can know but by faith or by the experience of the Lords Holy spirit, -if any, if not all the books of the bible are true or false.
Its faith, read some seed.........
A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic - on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg - or else he would be the devil of hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the son of God; or else a madman or something worse.... but let us not come up with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.
C. S. Lewis.
Bernard Ramm, a professor of theology in the USA said this about the words and teachings of Jesus:
They are read more, quoted more, loved more, believed more, and translated more because they are the greatest words ever spoken....Their greatness lies in the pure lucid spirituality in dealing clearly, definitively, and authoritatively with the greatest problems that throb in the human breast....No other man's words have the appeal of Jesus' words because no other man can answer these fundamental human questions as Jesus answered them. They are the kind of words and kind of answers we would expect God to give.
Read on, see if you will find the belief that there is a God and Jesus is his spoken word, and the word tells us of creation as apose to evolution.
Many of the Laws in the west were originally based on the teachings of Jesus. We are making progress in virtually every field of science and technology. We travel faster and know more, and yet in 2,000 years no one has improved on the moral teaching of Jesus Chirst. Could that teaching really have come from a con man or a mad man?
Nicky Gumbel, Theology and Writer Oxford.
[The] Church.....beginning from a handful of uneducated fishermen and tax gatherers, swept across the whole known world in the next three hundred years. It is a perfectly amazing story of peaceful revolution that has no parallel in the history of the world. It came about because Christians were able to say to inquirers: "Jesus did not only die for you. He is alive! You can meet him and discover for yourself the reality we are talking about!" They did, and joined the church and the church, born from that Easter, gave spread everywhere.
Michael Green, Writer.
Now there was about this time, Jesus a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works - a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Chirst; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians so named after him, are not extinct at this day.
Josephus, Historian. AD 37.
Is not the nature of Christ, in the words of the New testament, enough to pierce to the soul anyone with a soul to be piered?....he still looms over the world, his message still clear, his pity still infinite, his consolation still effective, his words still full of glory, wisdom and love.
Bernard Levin. Columnist.
In many of the popular music trends of the past twenty years or so there is a cry concerning a: Loss of direction, lost hope, no faith, a wanting to live for ever, a bitterness to an unseen lie, a hate in being alone, to have satisfaction, a constant craving, a sin, of help, of a sound of silence, a feeling of falling, a feeling of fear, a wanting to go home, a need of peace and an unseen enemy. The chorus from a famous song sums it up. " Constant craving has always been." Can you sing what you dont believe? Can you write what you are not feeling at the time, when under no pressure to do otherwise? No matter, because the most amazing thing is Jesus has delt with and has answers for all of these cries!
Nathan Price.
I have been used for many years to studying the histories of other times, and to examining and weighing the evidence of those who have written about them, and I know of no one fact in the history of mankind which is proved by better and fuller evidence of every sort, to the understanding of a fair inquirer, than the great sign which God has given us that Christ died and rose again from the dead.
Professor Thomas Arnold, Chair of Modern History, Oxford.
The first thing we must learn about him is that we should have been absolutely entranced by his company. Jesus was irresistibly attractive as a man....What they crucified was a young man, vital full of life and the joy of it, the Lord of life itself, and even more the Lord of laughter, someone so utterly attractive that people followed him for the sheer fun of it......We need to recapture the vision of this glorious and happy man whose mere presence filled his companions with delight. No pale Galilean he, but a veritable Pied piper of Hamelin who would have the children laughing all round him and squealing with pleasure and joy as he picked them up.
Lord Hailsham, Former Lord Chancellor.
Following on from the first quote by C. S. Lewis:
We are faced then with a frightening alternative. The man we are talking about was (and is) just what he said or else a lunatic or something worse. Now it seems to me obvious that he was neither a lunatic nor a fiend; and consequently, hower strange or terrifying or unlikely it may seem, I have to accept the view that he was and is God. God has landed on this enemy occupied world in human form.
Each and all [sins] have crowds of unhappy prisoners bound hand and foot in their chains....The wretched prisoners....boast sometimes that they are eminently free...There is no slavery like this. Sin is indeed the hardest of all task-masters. Misery and disappointment by the way, despair and hell in the end - these are the only wages that sin pays to its servants.
J. C. Ryle. Former Bishop of Liverpool.
What do all true followers of Jesus say and love to sing of him? "He has set me free!"
Does anybody know what we are living for? - You can have everything in the world and still be the loneliest man, and that is the most bitter type of loneliness.
Freddie Mercury, lead singer, Queen.
I am the way, I am the life. - I am the bread of life.
Jesus Christ, Son of God.
A note of what a person said after coming to chirst:
I now have hope where previously there was only despair. I can forgive now, where before there was only coldness....God is so alive for me. I can feel him guiding me and the complete and utter loneliness which I have been feeling has gone. God is filling a deep, deep void.
Questions of life, Nicky Gumbel.
There are many fears that plague the human soul: Kenophobia, fear of empty rooms. Limnophobia, fear of lakes. Microphobia, fear of germs. Ochlophobia, fear of crowds. Paralipophobia, fear of neglect of duty. Tachophobia, fear of speed. Zelophobia, fear of jealousy. Triskaidekapobia fear of thirteen. Chionophobia, fear of snow, and many, many more. These fears are very real to the people that have them. Yet there is a writen word that says not one of us has to have any fear but in God. The word of God, in just one account of many,........
..".....The Lord is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the defense of my life; whom shall I dread !...."....
Psalm 27.

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Nasa
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Message 32 of 57 (125193)
07-16-2004 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Yaro
07-16-2004 11:07 PM


Im not a dude. The quotes are great, far better and carrying far greater weight than what I could produce.
Dont you like the quotes by C.S Lewis?
This message has been edited by Nasa, 07-16-2004 10:21 PM

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