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Author Topic:   Any good books against ID?
Quetzal
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Message 3 of 38 (11752)
06-18-2002 3:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Andya Primanda
06-18-2002 12:55 AM


Andya, I don't know of any books that have been written against ID per se, although I've seen a lot of articles. Here's a rare find: an article written for publication in a peer-reviewed science journal shredding Dembski's explanatory filter: The advantages of theft over toil: the design inference and arguing from ignorance by Wilkins and Elsberry. I don't know how long the link will be up - as soon as Bio Phil publishes it, the link will come down for copyright reasons.

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Quetzal
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Message 4 of 38 (11753)
06-18-2002 4:03 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by TrueCreation
06-18-2002 3:48 AM


Take it easy, TC. Read Andya's OP again. He merely pointed out that most of the popular press anti-creationist books published so far are aimed at the YECs. My guess is that the reason is the YECs have been at it longer than the IDists. He made no value judgements concerning "ease of refutation" or whatever you were getting upset about.

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Quetzal
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Message 5 of 38 (11761)
06-18-2002 1:41 PM
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06-18-2002 3:51 AM


I just remembered that Pennock wrote a book called "Tower of Babel" that was directed against ID. There are probably others out there, now that I think about it.

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Message 18 of 38 (12199)
06-26-2002 4:36 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Tranquility Base
06-26-2002 2:41 AM


Really, TB? In what way? Behe's argument is a rather transparent restatement of Paley's watch argument. IOW, a combined "god of the gaps" and "argument from incredulity". Maybe you'd care to start a new thread on Behe - specifically which elements of his argument you feel are most persuasive and compelling? (Book Nook probably isn't the place.)

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Quetzal
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Message 21 of 38 (12272)
06-27-2002 5:19 AM
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06-27-2002 4:05 AM


Great TB. Let me know when you've finished it. For reference, I'll be mostly out of contact between 6-29 July - partly for vacation, and partly for work. Enjoy your reading, and we can pick it up again then.

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