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PecosGeorge
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Message 141 of 323 (113661)
06-08-2004 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by jar
06-08-2004 2:16 PM


Re: Bonobos, etal
What is unlikely?
Animals are created equal to humans?
Oops, I'm going round and round.....pardon me.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 149 of 323 (113896)
06-09-2004 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by crashfrog
06-08-2004 6:05 PM


Nowhere
will you find a post where I deny your rights to choose how you live your life. Neither does God deny it.
It's not my business and I thank God for that.
I pointed out and point out that God declines to accept certain behaviors as acceptable to him.
Neither has he stopped you, neither will he, neither will I. He does not stand in your way, neither do I.
I speak for myself, not other Christians, not other people of any kind, not the laws laid down in this country.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 150 of 323 (113898)
06-09-2004 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by jar
06-08-2004 2:16 PM


Many of the Christians
here also believe that upon death one either goes to heaven or hell. All those Christians who believe so, are wrong.
It is said of man that he is created in the image of God, in the image of God created he man. This is not said of animals.
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PecosGeorge
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Message 151 of 323 (113900)
06-09-2004 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by Sleeping Dragon
06-08-2004 11:24 PM


I think
homosexuality is pronounced unacceptable by God.
Efforts are underway to find a genetic disposition to the 'condition', if you will. Whatever the results of the latter, does not diminish God's determination. It is the best I can do for you.
I wish you well.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 155 of 323 (113919)
06-09-2004 2:25 PM
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06-09-2004 1:07 PM


why
would God be so cruel to put weeds in my garden?
did he?
genetic inferiorities have progressed since the time Adam could not contain himself.
People used to live hundreds of years.
they don't any longer.
see that?

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PecosGeorge
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Message 159 of 323 (113980)
06-09-2004 5:24 PM
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06-09-2004 2:38 PM


Re: why
and round and round we go
there is no genetic superiority to be found on this planet

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PecosGeorge
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Message 162 of 323 (113988)
06-09-2004 6:07 PM
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06-09-2004 5:27 PM


Re: why
you have found your destiny......

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PecosGeorge
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Message 165 of 323 (114027)
06-09-2004 11:15 PM
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06-09-2004 9:38 PM


Re: I think
No more rounds, Dragon. You are aware of the scripture that speaks against homosexuality. I did not invent the decree.
As for what homosexuality is or is not - it is spoken against in the scriptures, that alone is what it is to me. As to giving it acceptance of any and every kind in society and whatever it is to be called, it is still spoken against in scripture.
Thank you for your interest. I am not designed to defend scripture, they do not need it, and I do not defend my beliefs. They are mine - you may respect that if you wish, if you do not wish, that is also all the same to me.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 169 of 323 (114114)
06-10-2004 9:03 AM
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06-08-2004 2:16 PM


Re: Bonobos, etal
I hope this suffices as an answer.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 172 of 323 (114143)
06-10-2004 11:48 AM
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06-09-2004 5:27 PM


Re: why
It's a true mystery, and I don't blame you for being confused.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 173 of 323 (114144)
06-10-2004 11:53 AM
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06-10-2004 9:40 AM


Re: ......excuse me?
explain 'point of view' and 'contradictory'. I see no point of view of mine expressed, therefore, no contradiction.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 192 of 323 (114600)
06-12-2004 12:17 AM
Reply to: Message 168 by berberry
06-10-2004 12:30 AM


Re: The racist, sexist, homophobic apostle Paul
He was none of those things.
Paul was a member of the Sanhedrin and as such, married. This must have been an unhappy experience for him, for it colored his view of women henceforth. In no way, would he be tempted to denote any of God's creation inferior - as in women inferior to men, all things God created are perfect in their kind. He would not be a racist for the same reason, nor would he be homophobic, since he understood the rules of loving one's neighbor and leave judgment of what is unacceptable to God. But speaking what is unacceptable, does not make him a bad person.
Some of the things Paul said about women, he clearly qualified by stating that he speaks them by permission and not command. Much like we today might talk about the things that make us unhappy, so did he. He was much determined that men should treat a wife with love and devotion, and love them as much as they love themselves. He knew that less than that is not acceptable. He was just not lucky in love and deemed service to God more to his liking, a thing he also stresses.
For a look-see, check 1 Cor. 7

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PecosGeorge
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Message 194 of 323 (114709)
06-12-2004 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by Sleeping Dragon
06-12-2004 6:46 AM


Lust
It doesn't work without lust. In the right setting, lust is a very positive ingredient to a relationship.
If you can understand that every negative has a positive........you can understand yin-yang. It's not that difficult.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 204 of 323 (114880)
06-13-2004 6:47 PM
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06-13-2004 1:47 PM


Re: Must lust? Ok.
lust is a good thing in its proper setting
do you have a problem with that?
the subject is lust, not het or gay, but lust.
my response deals/dealt with lust.
Is it more clear now? I hate it when people change the subject.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 218 of 323 (115090)
06-14-2004 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by crashfrog
06-12-2004 6:36 PM


Fornication
is a sinful act. Unequivocally unqualified.
Whether or NOT gay people marry is of no concern to me.
God made no provision for Adam and Steve, or the bible would state so clearly and there would be no question, as there is not question regarding Adam and Eve.

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