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PecosGeorge
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Message 151 of 323 (113900)
06-09-2004 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by Sleeping Dragon
06-08-2004 11:24 PM


I think
homosexuality is pronounced unacceptable by God.
Efforts are underway to find a genetic disposition to the 'condition', if you will. Whatever the results of the latter, does not diminish God's determination. It is the best I can do for you.
I wish you well.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 152 of 323 (113901)
06-09-2004 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 1:04 PM


Re: I think
Whatever the results of the latter, does not diminish God's determination.
Why would God be so cruel as to give someone a genetic predisposition to a trait he finds unacceptable?
It's like saying, "I find having brown hair unacceptable. By the way, I'm giving you brown hair. Enjoy your stay in Hell."

"He supposed that the intent of the Gospels was to teach people, among other things, to be merciful, even to the lowest of the low. But the Gospels actually taught this: Before you kill somebody, make absolutely sure he isn't well connected."
-Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

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MrHambre
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Message 153 of 323 (113908)
06-09-2004 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Zachariah
06-08-2004 12:31 AM


Not Too Close, Pal
Zachariah alleges:
quote:
Gay friends? Yes, I have some. They are some of my closest friends. Are they wrong? Yes, as far as I'm concerned they are.
With friends like the Zac-man, who needs enemies?

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jar
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Posts: 34026
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Message 154 of 323 (113909)
06-09-2004 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 12:54 PM


Re: Many of the Christians
But you still have not answered the questions in Message 136

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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PecosGeorge
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Message 155 of 323 (113919)
06-09-2004 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Dan Carroll
06-09-2004 1:07 PM


why
would God be so cruel to put weeds in my garden?
did he?
genetic inferiorities have progressed since the time Adam could not contain himself.
People used to live hundreds of years.
they don't any longer.
see that?

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Dan Carroll
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Message 156 of 323 (113921)
06-09-2004 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 2:25 PM


Re: why
What can I say... it's good to know that genetic superiority is what determines who gets into heaven.
God sounds like a great guy.

"He supposed that the intent of the Gospels was to teach people, among other things, to be merciful, even to the lowest of the low. But the Gospels actually taught this: Before you kill somebody, make absolutely sure he isn't well connected."
-Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
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From: Texas!!
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Message 157 of 323 (113943)
06-09-2004 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 2:25 PM


Re: why
But you still have not answered the questions in Message 136

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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berberry
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Message 158 of 323 (113975)
06-09-2004 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Dan Carroll
06-09-2004 1:07 PM


Re: I think
Dan Carroll asks:
quote:
Why would God be so cruel as to give someone a genetic predisposition to a trait he finds unacceptable?
Makes perfect sense when you consider this is the same God who ordered the genocide of the Amalekites and who hated Esau for no reason. I still don't understand what it is that makes him so much better than Satan.

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PecosGeorge
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Message 159 of 323 (113980)
06-09-2004 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 156 by Dan Carroll
06-09-2004 2:38 PM


Re: why
and round and round we go
there is no genetic superiority to be found on this planet

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Dan Carroll
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Message 160 of 323 (113983)
06-09-2004 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 5:24 PM


Re: why
genetic inferiorities have progressed since the time Adam could not contain himself.
there is no genetic superiority to be found on this planet
Well then, I'm confused. How can a person possibly be genetically inferior without another person being genetically superior to them?
This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 06-09-2004 04:31 PM

"He supposed that the intent of the Gospels was to teach people, among other things, to be merciful, even to the lowest of the low. But the Gospels actually taught this: Before you kill somebody, make absolutely sure he isn't well connected."
-Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
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Message 161 of 323 (113984)
06-09-2004 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 5:24 PM


Re: why
But you still have not answered the questions in Message 136

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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PecosGeorge
Member (Idle past 6902 days)
Posts: 863
From: Texas
Joined: 04-09-2004


Message 162 of 323 (113988)
06-09-2004 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 160 by Dan Carroll
06-09-2004 5:27 PM


Re: why
you have found your destiny......

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Dan Carroll
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Message 163 of 323 (113989)
06-09-2004 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 6:07 PM


Re: why
Cool. I've been meaning to do that. But you haven't answered my question.

"He supposed that the intent of the Gospels was to teach people, among other things, to be merciful, even to the lowest of the low. But the Gospels actually taught this: Before you kill somebody, make absolutely sure he isn't well connected."
-Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

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Sleeping Dragon
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Message 164 of 323 (114014)
06-09-2004 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by PecosGeorge
06-09-2004 1:04 PM


Re: I think
To PecosGeorge:
homosexuality is pronounced unacceptable by God.
This claim is contestable, and has been conteste by many in this thread alone. Kindly support your claim before you make a statement so bold.
Efforts are underway to find a genetic disposition to the 'condition', if you will. Whatever the results of the latter, does not diminish God's determination. It is the best I can do for you.
Interesting. So Homosexuality is not a willful choice (according to you) afterall. So they are (according to you) naturally (genetically) "un-reproductive" and "unnatural"?
How bizarre?! that statement even sounds a little (godforbid!) contradictory?!
Shed a little light this way please, if you're kind.
Patiently awaiting your reply.

"Respect is like money, it can only be earned. When it is given, it becomes pittance"

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PecosGeorge
Member (Idle past 6902 days)
Posts: 863
From: Texas
Joined: 04-09-2004


Message 165 of 323 (114027)
06-09-2004 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by Sleeping Dragon
06-09-2004 9:38 PM


Re: I think
No more rounds, Dragon. You are aware of the scripture that speaks against homosexuality. I did not invent the decree.
As for what homosexuality is or is not - it is spoken against in the scriptures, that alone is what it is to me. As to giving it acceptance of any and every kind in society and whatever it is to be called, it is still spoken against in scripture.
Thank you for your interest. I am not designed to defend scripture, they do not need it, and I do not defend my beliefs. They are mine - you may respect that if you wish, if you do not wish, that is also all the same to me.

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