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Author Topic:   Did viruses precede other life?
RAZD
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Message 4 of 32 (106514)
05-08-2004 12:48 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by NosyNed
05-07-2004 2:25 PM


Re: Thanks
I'll second that. Reminds me of a certain 'conversation' with DNAUnion ... to be polite about it.
Fits with thoughts I have had.
Bookmarked as I may find more use for it.

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Message 7 of 32 (111344)
05-29-2004 1:49 AM
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05-08-2004 5:04 AM


The early chemistry was different from current, and the early environment was different. It is possible for replicator molecules to develope in protocell environments alien to what we think of as cells. Is one of these the ancestor to viruses, another to cellular life?
too bad about the cats.

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Message 8 of 32 (111345)
05-29-2004 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by SUnderwood
05-28-2004 2:27 PM


Re: Viruses came first
do you think horizontal transfer by virus type mechanism could be a valid cause of {speciation \ "macro"evolution}? it would certainly cause PE events?

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Message 10 of 32 (112860)
06-04-2004 10:04 PM
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06-03-2004 4:32 PM


Re: Viruses came first
Bascially, yes, horizontal transfer of genetic information by viruses is the major driving force behind speciation/"evolution".
I don't think you can go that far. There are many examples of speciation, but direct connection to viral infection?

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Message 12 of 32 (112987)
06-05-2004 11:33 PM
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06-05-2004 5:48 AM


Re: Viruses came first
missed it -- can you give me a link? or the topic?

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