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Jason
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Message 1 of 6 (112791)
06-04-2004 1:40 PM


Dear Sirs,
In the past I have found a kind of round record-shaped bitmap-pictures
that are embedded by a steganography method using Gematria into the
Torah (the Hitomi-Function). The pictures are celestial star asterism
and occult symbols. I was not able to find similar pics in other books
even not by modifieing the method, that otherwise is allways the same
and does not use any ELS or such but plots just the straight
calculations for any subsequent word and verse. If anyone around knows
how to publish this discovery to a large public, please respond. Some of
my decryption work is already published at:
http://otaku.onlinehome.de/gematria.html
It's all about a secret calendar or similar of some sort and I am
currently puzzling it together to see what it really is.
People want proof, but they cannot get it until they quest to gain the
knowledge to understand the proof.
regards,
Andreas G. Szabo
Mathematician
This message has been edited by Jason, 06-04-2004 03:57 PM

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Message 3 of 6 (112913)
06-05-2004 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jason
06-04-2004 1:40 PM


One question: Is there any pattern in the word values searched for, or is it just a trial and error thing? I noticed you used 666, but how many of the numbers 1-1000 actually produce anything meaningful?

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Message 4 of 6 (112920)
06-05-2004 2:01 PM


checksumming and controling the Hitomi-Function
You ask if the used values are pertinent? Yes. Sounds easy but requires a deep understanding of the whole concept to see. A waste ammount of astronomy calculations and similar is involved. Though there is one easy pattern, that may be considered as a checksum: from the about 8 different values that draw pics out of the ~ 1500 that don't, any of these 8 values is of three digits and at least 4 of these values add up to the number of Verses that are required to draw 5 rings, whereas 2 add up to two rings and the other 2 add up to three rings! Alltogether 5 rings is a basic shape of the concept, i.e. one eye out of two that are there in total. Though only one eye shows pics. The other may be called control-eye, showing only chaos.
In details:
one ring is 511 verses
the Genesis has thrice 511 verses, thus 1533 verses
the four checksumming values are:
666, 867, 656, 366
they all 4 draw pics, that are:
666: triangle
867: right angle
656: Orion
366: peak with a flash in it
666 + 867 adds up to 1533
656 + 366 adds up to 1022
Now in verse 1022 within the first 1533 verses of the Torah, there we have thrice the gematric value of 360 by the word SMK viz Shem Cha meaning "your NAME". In my eyes - and tehre is also an astronomy clue behind - this means that 511 verses shall be represented by 360 degree and so the thrice 360 mean the three inner rings that can be called the pupil of the eye. The two outer rings from the 5-ringed eye are the iris. Both "pupil" or "eyes" is the meaning of the japanese (girls)NAME and WORD (it's both) "Hitomi". Therefore Hitomi-Function.
Now let's relativise the tension a bit: except of the about 8 values in the first eye (i actually did not count them yet, because each single pic takes a lot of time to be examined in it's details) the whole rest of values in the first eye and any value in the control-eye shows only chaos for ME and now.
Consider also that within that chaos is also something that appears meaningfull on the first view, but can be proven to be caused only by the type of text, e.g. by a list of birthnames, tribes and such, where just obvious features repeat.
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Message 5 of 6 (112964)
06-05-2004 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jason
06-04-2004 1:40 PM


i suggest you run it through dr brendan mckay, prof of computer science at the australian national university. i'm sure he could use something new to play with.
Brendan McKay's Home Page
he is responsible for disproving the validity of the bible code, so... Torah Codes

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Jason
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Message 6 of 6 (112978)
06-05-2004 9:52 PM


Torah Steganography: planetary cycles and bitmap pictures
(thank you Arachno, I have written this letter to him
Shalom Brendan or what shall I write?,
I am writing from Germany and English is not my first language. I have had a look on your publications about mathematical miracles and came to the conclusion, that mine is different. Well, very very different. At most they resemble to the findings of Panin in the first verse of the Genesis, that are proven to be really there. Well, that was easy. Now...
In the past I have found a kind of round record-shaped bitmap-pictures
that are embedded by a steganography method using Gematria into the
Torah (I called it the "Hitomi-Function"). The pictures show occult
symbols and celestial star asterisms. Before I can publish this discovery to a large public, I need it to be either verified or statistically disproven by someone who has some grades.
Some of my decryption work is already published at: http://otaku.onlinehome.de/gematria.html
It's all about a secret calendar or similar of some sort and I am
currently puzzling it together to see what it really is.
I am through all that "kosher torah" discussion and have verified my discovery to be present also in the Codex Leningradensis. This is important, because the CL had almost the correct verse divisions written down already 500 years before the Church did that. In my eyes the verse divisions of the Torah were intended to be where they are from the start and contain vital non-obvious information. This is mirrored by the strict torah-reading plans of the jews until today, where one verse is read per day.
Please see the page for some example "Hitomi"-pics. The exact method is described there also (look for question 4 near the end of the page).
Briefly told, the pictures are made from certain gematrical values in a way that plots every occurence of a particular wordvalue into a (round!) coordinate system. One picture is drawn from only one value and ANY subsequent verse and word is used. No ELS or skip makes the method too flexible. It's a straight and stiff method. The question may come, wether the few certain values that draw recogniseable shapes are pertinent or not.
The simpel answer is: Yes. ....
[here my previous posting on checksumming and controlling the Hitomi-function was placed]
...
Concerning the astronomy I mentioned, just a little hint now:
(it's a very complicated lot of material altogether)
the total number of verses of the Torah turns around about 5847 in different editions, with about 8 verses less or more. The numers in that region match common multiples of almost any (!) basic astronomical and calendrational cycles:
http://otaku.onlinehome.de/torah.html#cycles
These cycles correspond in numbers to the ages sheme of Abraham, Sara and their sons Ismael, Isaak, Esau and Jacob. Some of these correspondences are mentioned on my page. Mr William John Meegan, Author of a Book about the Genesis interna has already verified them and Prof. Wugalter from the Technical University of Munich said, they would be very very very significant, but he has no relation to that matter.
Please respond if you want to disprove or certify anything of my discoveries for a large public or also if you are just interested in learning more about them.
In my eyes the Torah is the "Hall of Records" of Thoth, aka Hermes Trismegistus or Hormoshe. Well, I leave open a lot of room for stories because I concentrate basically on the patterns themselves.
sincerely,
Andreas G. Szabo
Private Researcher
This message has been edited by Jason, 06-05-2004 08:55 PM

  
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