"Split into two hominid species is a lot different than the implication of "invalid category"" Posted by RAZD.
Well, here is how I see it. Since Hablis is not a single creature - but a mixture of creatures - it can't be an ancestor and therefore is an invalid category for transitional status. With Hablis gone, there is no clear cut transmission between the Australopithecines and Homo Erectus.
And yes, most of my information came from "The Image of God".
Q: For the record: do you believe H. habilis is an invalid taxon?
His response is basically saying that Habilis is not an ancsetor.
From your article with the telephone transcript, Dr Spoor states:
"Keep up the good work disclosing the creationists' nonsense. I am very much aware that any arguments and disagreements in scientific debates between palaeoanthropologists will be taken out of context and used by creationists to suggest that they have science and actual evidence on their side."
This doesn't make any sense! Also note: the transcript stops here. Is there anymore to it? He doesn't refute the creationist "evidence on their side". Could we have a link for this transcript? He was not, or didn't appear to be hostile towards the creationists in "The Image of God". If he knew that the evidence he would show on "The Image of God" the creationists would use, then why go on there in the first place? The evidence that he displayed is in no way false, even if Habilis was an ancestor (ignoring the multiple species point) than it is even less bipedal than Australopihecines which is in the wrong direction towards Humans. There is no taking the "evidence out of contrast" - as he said the evidence himself as crystal clear and I and heard it with my ears.
Also, I am - by past experiences - very skeptical of talkorigins.com as they lie and change the evidence to support their theory. A classic example of this is the fact that there are no 3rd Stage SNRs in our galaxy - they say that there are a tonne of them. A total lie and contradictory to the real evidence. So I don't really trust that "sceintific" site.
You state:
"It looks like your sources are not scrupulous about providing accurate information."
Actually they were providing rather accurate information - some of which came from Dr Fred Spoors mouth. They said that many evolutionists feel that Australopithecines are just an extinct ape like creature, while Hablis is a waste bin and various species and even if it wasn't, "it is less evolved in the way of what we see in Humans" ~ Dr Spoor. They then went on to talk about Homo Erectus, Neandertals, Box Grove man and stated that they are truely Human (after describing eivdence). So where are the transitionals?
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