What The Genesis Noaic Flood Would Not Produce.

Shits and giggles, blowing off some of the steam that is generated by actually trying to engage Buz in an honest debate, thats why I'm here at least.

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It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

First off, my position which I've aired in other threads, relative to the Wyatt site, is that there's little, if no remains of the ark left. What is likely left is an ark shaped depression on the site of where the ark rested.I've always contended that John Morris, et al and other groups claiming ark debris on the rugged heights of Mt Aarat make no sense even looking up there. There's just no way the hoofed field animals etc could get off the ark and down the rugged mountain. The families would need to live in it until they got settled in. Likely they used it for some time for a barn or whatever they needed it for. Perhaps much of whatever iron things were on it were eventually removed for use elsewhere.I attended a program at a college several decades ago when Wyatt gave a slide presentation and talk on his 17 expeditions into the region before he died. I've also viewed David Fasold's video on the alleged ark site. It was the best documentation relative to this. I believe it was produced after Wyatt's death. David accompanied Wyatt on some of his expeditions into the region. I remember at the end of the video, David saying something like, "You've seen the evidence. I'm not claiming it to be proof. Each must decide for themselves whether it is indeed the ark site."The Genesis record says it rested on the mountains of Aarat which would not necessarily be the big mountain itself, but include the foothills of it.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

I say one of the things it takes is rain drops. You tell me, if you know.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Close, rainbows are caused by light refracting in drops of moisture. Are you claiming that in your mythical magical vapor canopy fantasy that there was no drops of moisture hanging around?

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It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

Drops of moisture is rain. There was not rain and no direct sunlight. The light filtered through the vapor. Thus no rainbow.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

What vapor is that? The vapor that created an atmospheric pressure 100 times that of Earth? Hmmmm, interesting.What kept that vapor from crushing everything on the planet?

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas JeffersonFor we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- PhatIt has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Was there no spray from waterfalls or waves Buz, no dew? Rain is not the only form of moisture. How does the vapor filter the light Buz?

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It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

I'll ask again, just in case you missed it earlier.Why would any intelligent person deny the existence of someone who could banish them to an eternity of suffering if there was any evidence of such a being?

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas JeffersonFor we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- PhatIt has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Buz, you are just making things up again.You have accepted, and augmented, an elaborate fantasy that has absolutely no basis in reality.When challenged, you just ignore the evidence presented in favor of your fantasy. It is akin to sticking your fingers in your ears and saying, "I can't hear you."I've never run into anyone quite like you. I am used to scientists, where if you show them sufficient data they will accept it. It appears that no amount of data will faze you in the least.Sorry, but the only term that comes to mind is "delusional."Say "Hi!" to Mickey and Pluto, as you're out there with them.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

There would be no significant change in atmospheric pressure. You would still have essentially the same column of air above the new higher sea level, that you had above the standard level. It is the weight of this air column this gives you the atmospheric pressure at different elevations above sea level.See the early messages at the (closed) What about altitude topic. Especially see messages 5 and 8MooseEdited by Minnemooseus, : Added the quoted from my previous message and added the "bolding".

Since you brought it up, I think now is a good time to tell Buz that Mickey isn't a planet either.

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"Mom! Ban Ki-moon made a non-binding resolution at me." Mohmoud Ahmadinejad

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Drops of moisture is rain. There was not rain and no direct sunlight. The light filtered through the vapor. Thus no rainbow.

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Because we all know that wet climates are noted for the absence of rain.

3). A fossil record carefully sorted so as to agree with the theory of evolution.

HI Buz,You didn't actually answer the question about how you would decide which of the two sites was Noah's ark, but you did use the word evidence one time, so can I assume that you do believe that evidence is how you figure out what is true about the real world?--Ted

Water vapor is more transparent to light, clear down into the "vacuum ultraviolet," than nitrogen or oxygen are. Which "harmful rays" did it filter out, Buz?Water vapor is a potent greenhouse gas. How did the temperature stay below "poach" with a "vapor canopy," Buz?

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"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD