XBone or P$4?

Mine was a windshield view, so it was more relaistic (for a C-64). It was almost impossible to get off the track.

If you want to judge a console by restrictions that they never enforced on a single gamer, then that is your choice. I tend to look at what the console actually offers and the actual restrictions. Perhaps that makes me the minority. I don't know. All I know is that there is a group of gamers that have this overpowering sense of entitlement that just doesn't make sense to me.

You like boats?Uncharted Waters Online.http://uwo.ogplanet.com/en/main.og

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Uncharted Waters Online is a MMROPG set within
several timelines during the Age of Exploration as a romantic
and historic fictional account of the era.

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Players will live and play real world of 15th century to make
their own history. Players may choose from among 6 nation-
alities: England, Dutch Republic, Ancien Rgime in France,
Spanish Empire, Kingdom of Portugal, and Republic of
Venice.

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As well the player may choose from several occupations
after choosing a basic class: adventurer, merchant, and
soldier. Players are able to trade, explore, battle and join in
live events such as "Great Sea Fights".

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Its even free.I played for a while with a friend who had a low-end computer and couldn't run the stuff I usually play. Its actually a pretty good game. I found it a little boring sometimes though.You start off and get a guy, then you do some training, figure out what guild you want to join (you can be an explorer, or a trader, or a fighter), get yourself a boat, start sailing around and finding towns n'stuff.You can see who's selling what goods at what prices and then buy low and sell high between the various towns. It centers on Europe, but the map is huge and even has the carribean in it.http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/...obal_Map_in_English.pngI won't hotlink that map, its huge. I think I started off in Seville, in Southern Spain.I said it gets boring because, even though the time is sped up during it in game, sometime you have to sail pretty far and all you can really do is sit there and stare at the back of your boat. (although, I remember minimizing the game and surfing the web for a few minutes while I was traveling somewhere).All in all, its not really fantastic, but its cool and different and a good game. Its certainly worth a try for the price!

I read that as judging Microsoft, not the console. As a Playstation fanboy, I can still say that the XB1 has some awesome offers. My friend has one. Snapping the Internet onscreen while watching TV is actually pretty kickass. I think, during college, downloading Day 0 games on the Scour Exchange and playing them on a modded Playstation before we could walk to the store and buy one, oh and playing crazy Japanese games that they don't even sell in the US, kinda spoiled me as to what I feel like I'm entitled to.But, really, if you bought a CD and you couldn't listen to it in your friends car, dontcha think you'd be a little peeved about that?

That looks intriguing. Looking it up right now. I love historical games.If I could make a MMORPG, I would probably create one based on Ancient Rome. I would make it extremely immersive to the point where you could make life choices to become a Senator, a gladiator, a member of the legion, etc.

Yeah.They should have done it like PlayStation did... put all those features in, just don't turn them on yet... but don't tell anyone about them either. I'm just joking.
Or, at least, I have no knowledge of the actual PlayStation operating code.It is obvious, though... that if one of these companies did such things it wouldn't make any sense at all. Instead of the marketplace flopping around between 50/50 or 60/40 in favour of each company at different times... it would jump to a 90/10 scenario and never change.
Those policies are shoot-yourself-in-the-foot-stupid to support by either company on their own.
But if both did it... then it starts to make a hell of a lot more sense.Where's my tinfoil??!

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The fact remains that Microsoft did attempt to push these features forward. So despite the obvious stupidity of the choice, it did not deter them from trying.Perhaps I am being too cynical, but I work in the tech industry and I am still amazed by some of the asinine decisions I have seen made by business leaders or some overzealous crazies in the marketing or sales department. Ultimately, most of that comes from a massive sense of hubris on the part of some of these decision makers. They become so engrossed in their own success, it gives them a massive god complex and a philosophy that they know better than everyone else.As a sidebar, its funny what you stated from a conspiracy standpoint. One of the running themes on the gamer forums is that Sony and Microsoft actually DID agree to those types of restrictions but Sony reneged on the deal to make Microsoft look stupid. Pretty far fetched in my opinion, but it doesn't stop people from pushing forth the theory.Regardless, my suspicion is that my ultimate decision on which console I buy will be predicated by which exclusive games I am most interested in. I do love Halo, but that in an of itself isn't enough at this stage. If Titanfall makes waves, I may be swayed in XBox's direction.To be honest, the game I am most looking forward to is Destiny, from Bungie, the guys that have us Halo in the first place.One other note: I am surprised neither console even made an attempt at backwards compatibility. Perhaps they felt their fan base was already such that it was not deemed necessary.

Heh. Awesome. Stupid Microsoft.But, really, this would just make the decision by Microsoft to be even stupider...If you have a minor piece of the pie, and you would like to increase your market share... you don't go about it by being the only company deciding to take away choice and make things more expensive and difficult for the end user.The only way that can make money for your company is if the one with the big piece of the pie does it too.Oh yeah, grow tin foil hat... grow like a weed! A shiny, metal weed!!

I think this kind of thing exists in every industry.
I make that claim based off my sample size of 1 -> the manufacturing industry. Go-Go Gadget sample size of 1! A good, rational way to do it.I'm buying a PS4 because I had a PS3.
I bought a PS3 because I had a PS2.
I had a PS2 because my girlfriend at the time (wife now) had one of those pink PS2 wireless controllers for girl-gamers and I wanted to impress her with my gaming skillz on the same system.Go-Go Gadget irrational purchases of expensive hardware!! I'm looking forward to multiplayer games that can be played together on the same console/TV.Online multiplayer-only doesn't help me and my wife play together... we may as well get another PC and network-play that route.I think things are starting to head down that direction (consoles getting away from two-player simultaneous action). But not yet, that fate will rest on the next-next-gen stuff, I think. I can see the possibility of one day all "more than one-player games" will be played via network connection (each player with their own TV/monitor). We'll see. Yeah, that sucks.
Well, I suppose they both have it via streaming if you re-buy the older games on the streaming-network...Hmmmm... both companies working together to take away choice and make things more difficult for the consumer... Go-Go Gadget Duopoloy Tinfoil! Now even higher!

I'm not trying to defend against Microsoft's stupidity. But the Digital Rights Management wasn't really something that was being advertised. People dug through the policy and discovered them.And Microsoft was trying to act like they put that stuff in there to make it better:

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For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

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But the internet saw through the bullshit and called them on it. DRM is to protect the company's profits by limiting the ways people can enjoy games besides going out and buying them.

You are using a very disingenuous chart.Lets look at sales in last 3 years. SourceAlso, until October the Xbox 360 was the dominant system in the US. After 32 months at the top, Xbox 360 dethroned by PlayStation 3
The Playstation 2 was released a year before the orginal Xbox. If we look at current generation systems we see almost a dead heat.
PS3 81.08 million units
Xbox360 79.79 million units.
SourceWhy would you be using obsolete systems to try to make this point? 60/40 is much closer to current reality.Has Playstation out sold Xbox? Yes. But not nearly to the amount your chrt implies.

And that is why I'm not buying a next gen system until my 360 craps out and I can't find a replacement anywhere.

That's not really what I am talking about. My school of thought is that different companies offer goods, and you choose the goods that best fit your needs. Then there are those that think companies should do exactly what they tell them to do, or else. The original Xbox One policies were similar to Steam's policies, and less lenient in some instances.