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RAZD Member (Idle past 1431 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I was just sent this article from Discovery News, not the best of sources ...
http://news.discovery.com/...re-we-living-in-a-hologram.html
quote: First, for the physics mavens - how legit is this article\observation\concept? Second - how does this affect dark stuffs? Does this affect relativity in any way (large lumpy image vs smooth\continuous? other references: A web page that points a browser to a different page after zero seconds
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Admin Director Posts: 13032 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.1 |
Thread copied here from the Holographic Universe thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3669 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined:
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First, for the physics mavens - how legit is this article\observation\concept? Well, first off, that Michael Talbot new-age lunacy has *nothing* to do with the concept we call the Holographic Principle - pure coincidence of titles. The Holographic Principle is speculative theoretical physics with possible observational properties and so is certainly science. Craig Hogan's ideas are interesting but not something I would get too excited over just yet. His "magnified" fuzziness of space-time caused by an actual projection is a possible extrapolation of the HP, but by no means a definite prediction, so linking this up with the observed static from the grav-wave detectors is not something on which I will be placing too much money...
how does this affect dark stuffs? Does this affect relativity in any way in gereral, at large length scales, neither are particularly affected.
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Taq Member Posts: 10073 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Physics is not my bag, but it still sounds premature to jump from noise to theory. Don't get me wrong, there have been important discoveries that were once thought be just noise, the CMB being a perfect example. However, a highly sensitve grav-wave detector sitting a massive planet with a dynamic interior surrounded by other massive moving objects would seem to be the prime description of a noisy environment for such a piece of equipment. Sometimes the noise is just that, noise.
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Physics is not my bag, but it still sounds premature to jump from noise to theory. As I understand it, the theory is that there would be less noise than they're finding. As if they're expecting a high resolution picture, but when they zoom in its already pixelated. Since its so noisy, they're saying it ain't no high rez photo. From the OP:
quote: However, a highly sensitve grav-wave detector sitting a massive planet with a dynamic interior surrounded by other massive moving objects would seem to be the prime description of a noisy environment for such a piece of equipment. But that noisy environment *is* what they are looking at. From the OP:
quote: Its just noisier than they were expecting it to be. Like a blurry high-rez photo. As if they're saying someone must've taken a picture of the high-rez photo and that's what they're looking at. So they're calling it a "Halograph". Whether they're right or not, I don't know, but that's what I think they're claiming.
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Briterican Member (Idle past 3975 days) Posts: 340 Joined: |
If the Universe is a holographic projection from the universal event horizon, it is predicted that the projection will be fuzzy. I'd be interested to know what other explanations there might be for this possible "fuzziness". The thing I don't like about this sort of story is the correlation to mysticism or metaphysics. This story was very recently presented in an episode of "Horizon" here in the UK (similar to the show "Nova" in the states). A particular colleague at work, who is an enjoyable conversationalist despite leaning heavily towards mysticism, took away from this programme some sort of support or confirmation of her mystical views. The thing I do like about this sort of story is that it seems interesting. It keeps people on their toes. I might even go so far as to say that these sorts of "far-out" notions promote "outside-the-box" thinking. And ultimately, I am encouraged when scientists go looking for mysterious things like this because they often stumble onto other, perhaps more significant things along the way.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1431 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi Briterican, nice pic.
The thing I don't like about this sort of story is the correlation to mysticism or metaphysics. What I find amusing, is that the comparison with pictures ties in with the Buddhist concept that all is illusion, ie we are looking at a picture rather than the universe?
The thing I do like about this sort of story is that it seems interesting. Indeed, and the part that interests me is how this affects physics in general and quantum\relativity in particular (comments by cavediver in Message 3 notwithstanding - it would seem we have three levels now, very large, very small and what the heck is that? Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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