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Topic: Meyer's New ID Paper Reviewed
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Bill Birkeland
Member (Idle past 2532 days) Posts: 165 From: Louisiana Joined: 01-30-2003
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Message 1 of 12 (139134)
09-02-2004 11:20 AM
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For a review of: Meyer, Stephen C. 2004. The origin of biological information and the higher taxonomic categories. Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. vol. 117, no. 2, pp. 213-239. go look at: Meyer's Hopeless Monster Page not found · GitHub Pages yours, Bill
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Percy
Member Posts: 22394 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 5.2
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Thanks for the link. If you come across any information explaining how a paper promoting standard ID theory came to be included in a peer-reviewed journal, that would be even more interesting. One would think that the peers conducting the review would have easily detected every single problem noted in the review, and probably many more, as well as the sheer unscientific nature of the approach. Methinks the peers need reviewing. I was unable to find out much on my own. From http://apt.allenpress.com/aptonline/?request=get-moreinfo..., this is about the journal:
The Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington is a quarterly publication consisting of articles focusing on systematic biology, taxonomy, biogeography, and phylogenetic studies. Issues also include news of interest to society members. And this about the society itself:
The Biological Society of Washington, founded in 1880, is a world-wide organization of nearly 250 people who have an interest in biological systematics and taxonomy. The Society publishes a quarterly, peer-reviewed journal, Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington, and holds an annual meeting. --Percy
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Adminnemooseus
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Message 3 of 12 (139151)
09-02-2004 12:07 PM
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Is a pre-existing topic on this subject
Meyer's Hopeless Monster. Will leave this topic open for now for additional links, but please take any discussion to the other topic. Adminnemooseus This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 09-02-2004 11:10 AM
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Percy
Member Posts: 22394 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 5.2
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Message 4 of 12 (139170)
09-02-2004 1:02 PM
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Bill Birkeland
Member (Idle past 2532 days) Posts: 165 From: Louisiana Joined: 01-30-2003
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Message 5 of 12 (139323)
09-02-2004 10:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 2 by Percy 09-02-2004 11:57 AM
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Additional Links
Percy commented: "Thanks for the link. If you come across any information explaining ....:" Some specific information can be found at: 1. "View Thread : A Lovely Dissection (Merge with "Meyer Publishes ID Paper" thread)" at: Oops! We ran into some problems. | Internet Infidels Discussion Board 2. "Meyer's Creationism Paper CFP for THE MONIST: Genetics and Ethics | Main | biosemiotics and more August 29, 2004" at: http://webapp.utexas.edu/...s/archives/sarkarlab/001909.html I imagine more details about this paper will be posted / discussed on the Panda Thumb, above web sites, and various blogs. It is my understanding, as is standard in many peer-reviewed papers, that people will be given the space to reply / commented on this article in print and Meyers will have the opportunity to reply to their comments. Yours, Bill
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Minnemooseus
Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: 11-11-2001 Member Rating: 10.0
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Message 6 of 12 (139807)
09-04-2004 1:45 AM
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the-scientist.com has posted their article on the subject. Page Not Found Moose
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Bill Birkeland
Member (Idle past 2532 days) Posts: 165 From: Louisiana Joined: 01-30-2003
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Biological Society of Washington Comments on Meyer's Paper
Biological Society of Washington Repudiates MyerNational Center for Science Education, Sept. 7, 2004
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Bill Birkeland
Member (Idle past 2532 days) Posts: 165 From: Louisiana Joined: 01-30-2003
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Chronicle of Higher Education Comments on Meyer's Paper
A discussion of the circumstances around the publication of: Meyer, Stephen C. 2004. The origin of biological information and the higher taxonomic categories. Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. vol. 117, no. 2, pp. 213-239. by the Biological Society of Washington is given in: Monasterskt, Richard, 2004, Biology Journal Says It Mistakenly Published Paper That Attacks Darwinian Evolution. Chronicle of higher Education. (September 10, 2004) This message has been edited by Bill Birkeland, 09-11-2004 01:11 PM
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Adminnemooseus
Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: 09-26-2002
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Message 9 of 12 (146821)
10-02-2004 6:28 PM
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Moved message - Realian statement
Bill Birkeland had posted the following at http:// EvC Forum: Raelian's Praise Meyer's New ID Paper --> EvC Forum: Raelian's Praise Meyer's New ID Paper:
quote: The Raelian Movement has issued press releases praising the publication of a pro-ID paper by Meyer in a peer-review journal and demand the teaching of ID in schools. They are: Scientific creation recognized officially as a scientific theory for the origin of life - Realian Movement Press Release, Sept. 14, 2004 Page not found - RAEL.ORG The Raelian Movement supports the academic debates about the Theory of Intelligence Design VS. the Theory of Evolution. - Realian Movement Press Release, Sept. 20, 2004 Page not found - RAEL.ORG Enjoy, Bill
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Percy
Member Posts: 22394 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 5.2
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Re: Moved message - Realian statement
Deleted off-topic message. This message has been edited by Percy, 10-03-2004 07:59 PM
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AdminNosy
Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: 11-11-2003
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Message 11 of 12 (146983)
10-03-2004 12:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 10 by Percy 10-03-2004 11:27 AM
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JP's reaction
Unless he emails you about getting his posting privileges back it's going to be hard to get his reaction.
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Adminnemooseus
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Message 12 of 12 (146984)
10-03-2004 12:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 10 by Percy 10-03-2004 11:27 AM
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Re: Moved message - Realian statement
Links and Information forum. Debate should go to the Meyer's Hopeless Monster topic. Adminnemooseus
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