What Is The Positive Evidence For Atheism?

You could certainly gain the knowledge that everybody who believes in God seems to be able to marshal absolutely no good argument for their belief, as I have.When it becomes abundantly obvious that everyone who asserts the existence of God does so on the basis of a bad argument, that's a pretty good indication that there's no reason to believe in God. Further, when it's abundantly obvious that God as described is inconsistent with observation, that's further evidence for disbelief.It's not really about faith. If there was even one bit of good evidence for God, I'd change my mind. That willingness to change the second that there is disconfirming evidence is the exact opposite of faith. When religious people encounter someone who stops believing in their religion at the first indication that it's wrong, they describe that person as "faithless."Well, that's exactly how atheists are about their atheism. The first good bit of evidence will convince us not to be atheists. How can we be accused of having "faith in atheism" if we abandon it at the first indication that its wrong?

No, you have misunderstood: this topic is about the positive evidence supporting Atheism worldview. Since you are not dumb and you knew the subject matter I will interpret this commentary to mean that in your opinion Atheism has none; therefore your life, being an Atheist, is based on blind faith.Ray Atheism: "we have no positive evidence" (but nevermind the fact that all of us are evolutionists).

It seems to me that it's considerably more accurate to say that it's based on faith that our senses allow us to correctly perceive the world around us and that our minds allow us to correctly reason and come to conclusions about the world around us. Given this faith in our senses and our reasoning, we conclude that a complete lack of evidence in the existence of god is sufficient basis for concluding that there is no god, just as a complete lack of evidence in the existence of pink unicorns is a sufficient basis for concluding that they don't exist.Now, if you wish to take the contrary position that either our senses do not allow us to accurately perceive the world around us, or that we cannot accurately reason and come to conclusions about the real world, you can certainly do that. But that's not nearly the same thing as saying it's all blind faith. Instead, it's saying that our faith in our senses and our reasoning is misplaced. We can then get into a discussion about whether that reliance is reasonable or not. But you cannot continue to claim it's all blind faith without exhibiting a staggering level of intellectual dishonesty.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Okay, I'll accept this as positive evidence for Atheism.As far as Christianity is concerned we explain the same depravity as corresponding to the Biblical claim that each and every person is under the control of the world, the flesh and the Devil. But, however, the degree of Christian ultra-goodness throughout the world as manifested in our care for the needy and sick, and a wide variety of positive social causes, for no other reason than to help (non-profit) refutes this evidence handily.Communist-Atheist regimes and the Holocaust in the past century show objective persons how wicked persons can be who have no spiritual compass. Conservative estimates say Atheists murdered at least 100 million persons in the previous century. Of course these regimes are the first time in history that Atheists ever got to rule (and look what they did armed with Darwin's theory).By the way, how many hospitals have Atheists built to care for poor persons compared to Christians?Ray Atheism: "we have no positive evidence" (but just ignore the fact that we are all evolutionists).

Thanks for the objective honesty in admitting that Atheism has no positive evidence in your opinion, but operates on blind faith.Of course you have just contradicted yourself about as much as any Atheist ever has since you have argued voluminously in previous topics that the evidence for evolution is positive evidence for Atheism. Has your view changed or do you wish to amend your position to harmonize with your previous messages? Yes, they are evolutionists, how ridiculous. Are you saying they reject the modern theory based on a crackpot biological First Cause scenario?Francis Crick, a space alien advocate (LOL!) was a hardline evolutionist, Crashfrog. Atheism: "we have no positive evidence" (but just ignore the fact that we are all evolutionists).

What, pray tell, is an "atheism worldview"? I understand both words being used, but in this context it makes no sense. Atheists are not a united group of people with some common ideology to form a 'worldview' we are similar in our lack of belief in deities, but similarity does not make an ideology.-x

Jar: since you claim to be a Christian, your position on the OP question is, in relation to evolutionary theory, predetermined. You MUST deny evolution to be positive evidence for Atheism because if you do not then you are the biggest fool on Earth OR, you are a "closet" Atheist attempting to undermine Christianity as a "believer." Since you hold no objective Biblical or Christian beliefs, you are an Atheist on sight. Stop insulting everyones intelligence.Ray Evolution is the alleged positive evidence for Atheism

This topic is for educated persons, please leave (I said please).Ray

I asked a simple question. I won't play the insult games. If your behavior is tolerated here, then I will gladly leave.-x

I have two post-graduate degrees plus a PhD - I guess that makes me educated. what's the atheism worldview?Edited by CK, : No reason given.

But you do not believe this because you are an Atheist. Atheists reject the existence of God.You are citing the Biblical explanation of Atheism.Ray Atheism: "we have no positive evidence" (but just ignore the fact that all of us are evolutionists). Why do Atheists refrain from saying that evolution is the positive evidence for the Atheism worldview? Answer: because that would expose so called "Christian" evolutionists to be fools or closet Atheists attempting to misrepresent the Bible deliberately.

A silent call to have a Moderator obtain some satisfaction (in your behalf) since your intellectuality failed. Not only are you a female, but you are also a troublemaker and a spoiled brat.Ray

The fact that you claim not to know refutes your claim of being educated.Ray

Because it's not.It is positive evidence that Genesis is not literal history, though.

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Progress in human affairs has come mainly through the bold readiness of human beings not to confine themselves to seeking piecemeal improvements in the way things are done, but to present fundamental challenges in the name of reason to the current way of doing things and to the avowed or hidden assumptions on which it rests. -- E. H. Carr

Thanks for pointing this out. Excellent point. But, however, evolution and its objective intent is the alleged positive evidence for the Atheism worldview. This is why all Atheists are evolutionists and it explains why they rabidly defend and support said theory. Another excellent point. I have always argued that religious Fundamentalists correspond to Atheists in that both groups are conducting the same business on opposite sides of the street.Ray