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Hi Larni, I have my bullet proof vest on. No aimimg at my head. My belief is more complicated than meets the eye.1. Feeling 1a. Thinking 1c.Consciousness These are the simplified definitions in context with my belief.2. Human (now this is a bit more difficult to define ) Step 3 will depend on agreement of the definitions and an expansion of the same.E.G Emotions/feelings. Are they energy? What different forms do they appear as? Where do they come from? How are they experienced? How do we know the name of the feeling being experienced? How do they affect our lives?Are you bored? ha ha ha See what I mean? Complex.

You could still correlate the two based on an assumption that the definitions are agreed upon. Then, if someone has a problem with a definition, you just hash it out. If the correlation changes, you adjust accordingly. There's really no reason to withhold it (unless you don't have it). Besides, what if Larni cannot post for a week-or-so? You'd rather it sit un-replied over the opportunity to hear from others? You should just read up on emotions and how they are produced by the Nervous System via neurons. <-- questions. Chit. That's nothing. This is complex.

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Science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence.
Letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith, faith, faith, faith.
Science has failed our world.
Science has failed our Mother Earth.
-System of a Down, "Science"He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man.
-Avenged Sevenfold, "Bat Country"

Am I not the expert on my beliefs? I did not pluck them out of thin air. You'll have to trust me or not. You have the remote.

Did I say that? A simple quote insinuates that I did, FYI. Of course you are the expert on your own beliefs, but you are not the expert on whether or not your beliefs conform to reality.For example, a schizophrenic would be an expert on their own beliefs, but their psychiatrist would be the expert on whether or not their beliefs conform to reality. I'm not calling you schizo, but simply illustrating the point that you aren't the expert on how true your beliefs are. Of course you think your beliefs are true (otherwise you wouldn't believe them, right?), but if you believe in a Flat Earth, others could confidently say that your beliefs do not conform to reality. Make sense? Maybe not, but how can I tell if your beliefs do or do not conform to reality? I have to check them against my beliefs and the beliefs of others.If your beliefs are "wacko" then we can assume they are false. We may not be correct, of course, but your going to have to provide strong evidence to the contrary to convince us. You have to earn my trust. The default is not. Actually, you have it. Start clicking. Take a position and make an argument. Then I'll have something to respond too.

My beliefs do conform to my reality as yours do for you. This is not a consensus of opinion considered true by the majority. This is a concensus of opinion by a minority of one. I am not using science or religion as my evidense. Just my life.

This is kind of unfair, Paula Rose. Your personal "reality" is inevitably defined only by you in an abstract sense that none of us is qualified to debate with you about. To be usable at all in this context, the word "reality" has to be defined as an entity external to any and all debaters. In other words, it has to be based on objective evidence.The way you're using the word "reality" clearly indicates that you are talking about the collective total of your own experiences, feelings and viewpoints, which any one of us could summarize and diagnose as we please. There is no possible way you can expect a legitimate debate on this issue.

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Nobody Important (just Bluejay)

I'm not talking about your beliefs confroming to your reality. I'm talking about your beliefs conforming to the one true reality. That's a good indication that its erroneous. Not necessarily, but still its an indication. But how can you tell if your beliefs conform to the one true reality?

The floor is yours. What is the ONE TRUE REALITY?

Why are you so scared to have the floor?This is your thread. Say something. Give me something I can reply too.Nobody, as in one person, can really know the one true reality. We all get our own little piece of it. We should work together and confirm each others ideas and come to a consensus on what we think is most likely the one true reality.Science has a method of doing this. And judging it by its fruits, its the best one we got.