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DrJones*
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Message 226 of 370 (909909)
04-12-2023 11:54 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by Phat
04-12-2023 10:10 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
well that has nothing to do with what I posted

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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Phat
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Message 227 of 370 (909933)
04-13-2023 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 223 by DrJones*
04-11-2023 11:07 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
phat writes:
Likely there will be a basket of currencies that share global reserve status, but the dollar will no longer be the primary one
DrJones writes:
Phat you slack jawed yokel, the "loose alliance" IS NATO! NATO has actually expanded with the addition of Finland and soon Sweden.
The main reason that nations traditionally joined NATO was to assure protection. The United States was able to be the primary member who funded much of everything.
The point is, the United States, increasingly weakening financially, cannot be the prime mover any longer.
Look up how many nations are left committed to the G7.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 228 of 370 (909935)
04-13-2023 4:15 PM
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04-13-2023 3:56 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
Phat writes:
The point is, the United States, increasingly weakening financially, cannot be the prime mover any longer.
Can you list the signs that the U.S. is increasingly weakening financially compared to the rest of the world or the other NATO countries?
Unemployment?
Inflation?
GDP?
Trade?
Military spending?
Phat writes:
Look up how many nations are left committed to the G7.
worldpopulationreview:
G7 is a term that is used to describe the "Group of Seven", a coalition of seven countries that have the largest and most advanced economies in the world: the United States, Germany, Japan, the United Kingdom, France, Italy, and Canada, along with the European Union. The G7 members represent over 46% of the gross domestic product globally based on nominal values. These countries represent over 32% of the GDP based on purchasing power parity. In 2018, the countries in this group comprised more than 60% of the global net wealth for a total of $317 trillion.
What calamity are you predicting here?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

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Theodoric
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Message 229 of 370 (909939)
04-13-2023 4:56 PM
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04-13-2023 3:56 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
Look up how many nations are left committed to the G7.
WTF does that even mean?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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AZPaul3
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Message 230 of 370 (909950)
04-13-2023 7:03 PM
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04-13-2023 3:56 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
Look up how many nations are left committed to the G7.
You mean the G8 minus Russia? That's understandable, don't you think?
Other than that, all of rest are active participants. What's left, then, is all of them.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Tanypteryx
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Message 231 of 370 (909952)
04-13-2023 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by AZPaul3
04-13-2023 7:03 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
You mean the G8 minus Russia? That's understandable, don't you think?
And Russia only makes it into the top 20 economies, not the top 8.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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AZPaul3
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Message 232 of 370 (909953)
04-13-2023 7:13 PM
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04-13-2023 7:08 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
Russia was a member, dubbed the G8, until their 2014 invasion of Crimea.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Tanypteryx
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Message 233 of 370 (909955)
04-13-2023 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by AZPaul3
04-13-2023 7:13 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
Yeah, I know, but they didn't really qualify, based on their ranking.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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AZPaul3
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Message 234 of 370 (909959)
04-13-2023 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Tanypteryx
04-13-2023 7:20 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
That was an olive branch to the newly engaged democratic Russia after the collapse of the USSR. A lot of good it did.
Russia has been free and democratic 3 or 4 times in its last 600 year history. I think maybe 10 days in total. More or less. The russians just can't seem to avoid tyranny. They seem to seek it out and revel in it.
Regardless, they are not a G-anything anymore. And it has nothing to do with waning american power.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Tanypteryx
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Message 235 of 370 (909961)
04-13-2023 8:04 PM
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04-13-2023 7:52 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
Regardless, they are not a G-anything anymore. And it has nothing to do with waning american power.
Trying to imagine Vlad in a G-string, but failing...

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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DrJones*
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Message 236 of 370 (909962)
04-13-2023 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 227 by Phat
04-13-2023 3:56 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
The United States was able to be the primary member who funded much of everything.

The point is, the United States, increasingly weakening financially, cannot be the prime mover any longer.
the russia invasion of ukraine has forced most of NATO to wake up ad start spending more on defence.
Look up how many nations are left committed to the G7.
All 7 of them are. Seriously Phat do you even know what the G7 is?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Theodoric
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Message 237 of 370 (909964)
04-13-2023 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Tanypteryx
04-13-2023 7:20 PM


Russia a string of G's
They were there solely on the strength of their military. What a joke. They will barely be G75 now.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 238 of 370 (909965)
04-13-2023 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by Tanypteryx
04-13-2023 8:04 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
I just threw up a little in my mouth. Thanks. But an excuse for another glass of Irish whiskey

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Tanypteryx
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Message 239 of 370 (909966)
04-13-2023 8:57 PM
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04-13-2023 8:47 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
Picture him on a horse!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Theodoric
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Message 240 of 370 (909967)
04-13-2023 9:03 PM
Reply to: Message 239 by Tanypteryx
04-13-2023 8:57 PM


Re: US dollar vs BRICS currency
Stop

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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