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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I get the impression that you think life is good. Well it is not good. It's not bad. It just is. That's evolution. It's not an accident. And it's not designed. It just is. Corporate greed? Religious fanatacism? Kids walking into school with guns and killing fellow students?None of those are bad... it is just the way it is. Sorry but I don't see anything relevant in that bunch of words, just a very silly attempt to toss in totally irrelevant nonsense. Since you are new here, let me try to point out some of the procedures here at EvC. First you are in a thread on the subject of Chemical Evolution in the Forum Origin of Life that is one of the Science Forums. Things like "Corporate greed? Religious fanatacism? Kids walking into school with guns and killing fellow students?" have no bearing on the subject. Further more your whole argument is fallacious not just from a science perspective but from a theological (which carries no weight on the science side anyway) position as well. In addition you continue to misstate what I have said. I am politely asking you to stop it. I will try again to explain what I have said. The Universe is NOT finely tuned for us. If you have evidence that it is otherwise then present it, please. The evidence that it is not tuned is that almost all of the known universe is inhospitable for us. We simply can't live there unless WE modify the local environment from what it is, to something WE have tuned for our own needs. Critters are not finely tuned either, rather they are just barely good enough to get by. The evidence for the above statement is that almost every species that ever lived has gone extinct. That is not just dying, anything born will die. But as species, we are so poorly tuned for the universe that we inhabit that even relatively minor changes have led to whole species going extinct. The rest of your post gets into the issues of societies. Granted that is interesting but it also has nothing to do with the subject. If you like, propose a thread and we can look at that. But you continue also to make wild unsupported and illogical assertions and to refuse to answer the questions asked of you. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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lovefaithhope Junior Member (Idle past 6279 days) Posts: 12 From: richmond, bc, canada Joined: |
the only truth here is start at the left and go to the right
no life in any form------>life are you crazy or avoiding the truth God is Love and Loves everyone what are you affraid of? are you sick? richard believe in God
OFF TOPIC - Please Do Not Respond to this message or continue in this vein. Take comments to the Moderation Thread. AdminPD Edited by AdminPD, : Warning
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1314 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: |
Please learn to write complete, coherent sentences before attempting to reply.
Your replies are unreadable and make no sense. This make it hard for anyone to address any of the points you may be attempting to make.
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As per my warning in the Abiogenesis Thread, you are suspended for 24 hours for continuing to make off topic posts.
If you persist in this behavior once the suspension is over you will be suspended permanently. Please direct any comments concerning this Admin msg to the Moderation Thread. Any response in this thread will receive a 24 hour timeout. Thank you
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
It is sooo embarassing when a canadian posts like that. And a local as well. Sorry about that people.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
While you are taking a breather, here is something to think about.
When you return, don't try pitching absolute nonsense like "God is Love and Loves everyone what are you affraid of? are you sick?" It simply won't fly here for a couple reasons. First, many of us here are very devout Theists, many like myself devout Christians, and we know that the idea there is some conflict between Evolution or Abiogenesis or 15+ billion year old universe has NOTHING to do with either GOD or Christianity and is simply something taught by ignorant Pastors. All science tells us is "How God Did It", and science does that with far greater honesty and far more truth than you will get from many Christian Pastors. You are not debating folk here that are only Atheists or Agnostics, you will have to present an argument that will pass muster with the Christians here at EvC who KNOW that Evolution is FACT, and that the Theory of Evolution is the best explanation so far on how that happened. Try to prepare an argument that will stand up when examined by the devout Christians here who also accept evolution. If you cannot convince even fellow Christians, you will certainly fail when debating Atheists and Agnostics. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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hopefaithlove  Inactive Junior Member |
If the animals have the ABILITY to change let's say like a chameleon that is any of several American lizards capable of changing the color of the skin then evolution works although you do not turn the giver of abilities where the credit is due! And that's God who we should depend on especially when it comes to understanding.
God bless you all! Love Richard
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6212 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
That is known as sub-evolution. (Sub-evolution is the belief that God used the process of evolution in order for life, as we know it, to extist).
However, God created everything. So then why would He even need sub-evolution in order for life to exist? He could just have made everything without the use of evolution. Don't get me wrong. Evolution does exist, but only to a certain extent. For example, a caterpillar evolves into a butterfly. Of course that is from God. But I do not think that we came from monkeys even through the process of Evolution.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
a caterpillar evolves into a butterfly Nope. A caterpillar metamorphosizes into a butterfly. They do not "evolve" into butterflies. Similiarly, tadpoles do not evolve into frogs and eggs do not evolve into chickens.
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6212 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
Are you suggesting that life on this planet originated from underground hot air? There are many underground chemicals that scientists have analyzed and broken down. After all these years, they cannot find what gives life.
Evolutionists say that the secret is in the DNA? Well, my dead grandpa has been dead for 8 years and still has the same DNA structure as when he was alive. How do I know? Because his dead body is the same as all of the other dead bodies that the scientists have studied. There was once a scientist that said, "I know that the theory of Evolution is incorrect, but I will never believe in God." It is not a matter of them not believing in what they study, it is a matter of them refusing to see the truth.
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6212 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
Wait.. what is the difference between metropilizing and evolving? I don't quite grasp it..=
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
There was once a scientist that said, "I know that the theory of Evolution is incorrect, but I will never believe in God." And there was once a Pope who said, "I know for a fact that we made up every last thing in the Bible, but if we tell people that they'll stop giving us money, so hush." Point, Counter point.
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6212 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
sorry....I meant metamorphosizing....
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ArchArchitect Member (Idle past 6212 days) Posts: 58 From: Pasadena, CA Joined: |
And who was that pope?
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2523 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
metamorphosis is:
a profound change in form from one stage to the next in the life history of an organism In other words, it happens during the life time of the particular thing you are looking at. A single animal does not evolve. Evolution takes place over generations.
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