Atheism, a dangerous idea?

That is the uncertainty. Yes, that is it. But don't get too crazy here, as it really isn't that much of a concern for me, I was just bringing up a point.If a Christian displays anything but love in his actions, then I could say, well he really isn't following what he believes. It shows me the hypocrite in him, or that there is room for growth. The golden rule is a good thing, and should never lead to anything bad. (we all know it does, that is why I question just exactly how many christians there are.)But an atheist can do what ever he wants. He act how he feels at the moment, and does have a set of morals to live by, and if he does, we just don't know what they are.What does all this mean? Nothing, just a point.

I never said that, so save your "breath".I know many atheists who are more Christian than Christians.edit I believe God put them on our hearts. It is part of the choice we have to make.Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.

Why not? The liberals and atheists that I know are very moral people, and they do follow the golden rule. Many liberals are christians. So why are you questioning their morality? In what way were you following the golden rule, when you categorized "liberals and atheists" as a group with suspect morality? Wasn't that entire post of yours (Message 34) in violation of the golden rule?

Where are you getting that crazy idea?The atheist gets his morals from society, just as the Christian does.

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One thing that scares me about an Atheistic point of view, is the uncertainty of what they believe in. Even when I was agnostic, I always felt the golden rule was a good thing to follow. This came from "God".

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No it didn't.It came from people.It is not unique to Chirstianity, nor to any other religion or belief in the supernatural.Buddhism is based upun the golden rule to some extent.

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Liberals and athiests believe in the "greater good", which is whatever they think it should be at the moment. I know that is way to general of a statement, but it represents a good portion of people.

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Christianity does the same thing.It used to be considered by Christians that it was "for the greater good" for white men to run things.

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Your response made no sense at all. Did you misunderstand me?

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nwr just fed you back your own reasoning, rat.If it makes no sense...

and where do the xians get their "morals" from the dictates of a church who in its history has supported .. racisum , slavery ,torture , persecution of those of differing views , persecution of other religions , persecution of those of a differing sect , up to and inlcuding the death penalty..... who has destroyed cultures and people across the globe ....most so called moral laws well pre date even the OT , no culture has permitted murder or thieft or rape or arson to go unpunished ... civilization is based on group coorperation to the benifit of the group , hence a set of morals is built in to the nature of civilization ...how many crimes are committed in the name of athisium ? how many churchs burnt down , how many anti religion rallys staged ?most atheists are people who have stopped and considered the world and their place in it and have found the religious argument lacking ...and once they have done this have then moved on to build their own "moral" world model ...often with a very "xian" attitude to others .is the atheist the new scapegoat for the right wing hate mungers ?? is the atheist the new jew / black / communist / hippey / do gooder , will we soon see posters of sneaky eye atheist whispering in the ears of others to spread their goddless creed ( pun ment )....???????no worries big brother is watching you all and he will step in if civilization nears a fall , now where was i 2+2 = .......

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But an atheist can do what ever he wants. He act how he feels at the moment, and does have a set of morals to live by, and if he does, we just don't know what they are.

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You write the most offensive, insulting things, rat.

Why? Doesn't the atheist live within the same society as the theist? I broke that sentence into two parts to deal with the two issues presented.First, do you have any support for the first quote? Can you show that an atheist is any less likely to be able to look at the potential consequences of an action or that their behavior is in anyway different than a theist?In the second quote, I think you left a word out or the statement makes no sense.Often the issue comes up where Christians in particular lay claim to some objective morality, but when they are asked for specifics, so far they have failed to produce any absolute or objective examples.How is that any different from the situation concerning atheists?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

This is, as always, why I take an hour out each day to use puppies as an instrument with which to club orphans.After all, there's no God. This means I exist in a complete moral vacuum, bereft of all outside influence.

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"We had survived to turn on the History Channel
And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied:
You're what happens when two substances collide
And by all accounts you really should have died."
-Andrew Bird

Dan Carroll Yeah but you use the fur from the orphans to make a living for yourself so that is OK. If you didn't do that we would be overrun with orphans eh?Edited by sidelined, : No reason given.

Oh, I didn't say I wasn't a hero.

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"We had survived to turn on the History Channel
And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied:
You're what happens when two substances collide
And by all accounts you really should have died."
-Andrew Bird

But keep in mind that he follows the golden rule

This doesn't mean nothing to me RR. What this means to me is that there is a group of people who (for the most part) act morally toward their fellow humans without any super being watching over their shoulder promising unending reward or punishment.It also tells me that there is another group of people who say that they will, without that super cop over them, run amuck. If they loose their "faith" that the super cop is there they will become dangeous psychopaths.One group demonstrates by their current behavior the degree to which they can behave without external reward and punishment. The other group claims that they are monsters who have to have something with limitless power to control them.I know who I pick to have a beer with.Edited by NosyNed, : stupid spelling

"Judge not, that ye be not judged"...?