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DaveScot Inactive Member |
I'd like authorization to participate in the showcase threads. In particular I want to ask Dr. Davison for details on how to test the semi-meiotic hypothesis. As he has been known to say (paraphased from memory) "There are two kinds of evolutionary hypotheses - those that have been tested and failed and those that have yet to be tested. The prescribed evolutionary hypothesis is among the latter." I wish to know in as much detail as he can provide how to test the PEH.
I may have subsequent questions for Dr. Davison or other showcase luminaries in the future.
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rgb Inactive Member |
Admin writes
quote:What are you talking about? I was just playing devil's advocate. Personally, I have no say on whether evolution is scientific or not since it isn't my field. However, what I can say is I know enough of my discipline to know how much training it takes to become a biologist. So, in this area I would say I trust biologists more than religious zealots. Herepton's whole premise seemed to have been that since things appeared to be designed it must not have come about by a blind process, and since evolution is blind... you get the point. I would like to point out some obvious strawman (unintentional or not) as well as some systems we find in nature that are non-directional yet appeared to be designed.
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Admin Director Posts: 13023 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.0 |
Access granted to the [forum=-37] forum for the purpose of participating in the discussion in the A Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis thread.
Look out, ACLU lawyer sneaking up behind you! Just kidding!
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Admin Director Posts: 13023 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.0 |
rgb writes: What are you talking about? I was just playing devil's advocate. I'm primarily going by Message 171:
rgb writes: I guess what I'm trying to say in too many words is that the reason the theory is not scientific is because too much of it is conjectured rather than formulated from direct evidence. Maybe another moderator is more familiar with your views. I'm just trying to make sure the discussion has both a pro and and a con.
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rgb Inactive Member |
I wrote
quote:And this is accurate how? Admin writes
quote:Does my previous post not mean anything at all? Added by edit. Well, I guess you're just looking for a straight forward answer. My straight forward answer is I absolutely do not agree with Herepton's view at all. Does that help? Edited by rgb, : No reason given.
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Admin Director Posts: 13023 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.0 |
Content deleted.
Edited by Admin, : Duplicate post.
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4921 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
Thanks for granting me admission.
As fyi...If you don't see my post something right away, it's just I will be travelling some for the next 5 days, but hope to be able to address the thread sometime in the evening over this weekend.
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Admin Director Posts: 13023 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.0 |
Requests to debate Syamsu in his Creationist theory thread in the [forum=-37] forum are now being accepted.
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EZscience Member (Idle past 5176 days) Posts: 961 From: A wheatfield in Kansas Joined: |
I hereby request access to debate Herepton on his contention that teleology is necessarily implied by organizational complexity.
EZ
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Admin Director Posts: 13023 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.0 |
Request granted.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Welcome back, Rand.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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randman  Suspended Member (Idle past 4921 days) Posts: 6367 Joined: |
thanks buzzsaw
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
This concerns rgb wanting to be part of Herepton's (Ray's) topic.
Does constructively exploring a concept neccessarily require disagreement? Surely you can effectively develop an idea with someone who agrees with your fundamental outlook? I agree. I think that it would be a good thing to see two or more creationists debate the details of their "theory". This seems to be something VERY rarely done. Now, if rgb is only going to be taking a "devils advocate" postion, then I think Ray/rgb interaction would be a false debate. But if they do indeed have some differences in position, I say "let them go at it". It would be a creationist version of something like Quetzal and Mamuthus arguing about some detail(s) in evolution theory. Minnemooseus and/or Adminnemooseus
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rgb Inactive Member |
Minnemooseus writes
quote:I finally get where the confusion is. I was taking the devil's advocate position in the thread Admin linked to. IFFFFFFF I ever get the permission to discuss in Herepton's thread, I will NOT be taking a devil's advocate position. But then again, if you guys really don't want me to participate for whatever reason, consider my request dropped. Never thought I'd have to go through this much trouble! It's hard for me to find a topic on here that I'm actually interested in discussing with someone. It's even harder for me to find a topic I am (was) this enthusiastic to participate in. Bummer for me :-(
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DaveScot Inactive Member |
Look out, ACLU lawyer sneaking up behind you! What? I didn't drop any soap. Good grief. The edit history is starting to look like like old source code! Edited by DaveScot, : Changed html quote type. Edited by DaveScot, : Trying out dbcodes. Edited by DaveScot, : No reason given. Edited by DaveScot, : No reason given.
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