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Author Topic:   Is Christ Seen in the Levitical Offerings?
jaywill
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Message 1 of 11 (310673)
05-10-2006 7:01 AM


Christians have discerned many symbolic things in the book of Leviticus concerning the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Particularly the offerings may be types and symbols of the many aspects of Christ offering Himself to the the will of His Father for man's redemption and salvation.
Through comparing the plain teachings, particularly by not exclussively, of the New Testament I'd like to discuss why I see the Levitical offerings contain symbolism pointing to the act of Jesus Christ to the will of God.
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jaywill
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Message 2 of 11 (310677)
05-10-2006 7:29 AM


Worship in Leviticus
Worship in Leviticus is different from what we usually might think of as worship. In this book worship and how to worship involves the worshippers contacting God mostly to enjoy a common portion with God. They worshippers enjoyed the things which they offered to God. Mostly, this was a kind of feast. A portion was offered to God for His enjoyment and a portion was for the enjoyment of the worshippers.
Man benefits from the offering. And God enjoys the offering. Some of the smoke ascended as a sweet smelling savor to God (in figure). And a portion was for the feasting of the priests. This was worship by way of mutual enjoyment. The meaning is that God enjoys man contacting Him through Christ His Son. God enjoys man presenting Christ in all that He is back to God by way of worship. And in this worship man also feasts upon what Christ is.
The first five major offerings show this:
1.) The burnt offering (1:1-17)
2.) The meal offering (2:1-16)
3.) The peace offering (3:1-17)
4.) The sin offering (4:1-35)
5.) The trespass offering (5:1-6:7).
The burnt offering reveals Christ as the One Who is absolute for the will of God and totally pleasing to God.
The meal offering portrays that Christ's humanity was fine, perfect, supremely qualitative. His human person was and still is everything that man needs in character and virtue.
The peace offering represents Christ as the peace towards God, reconciling all enmity between us and God, bringing a sweet peace without any more problems.
The sin offering reveals Christ as the One who can solve the problem of the sin nature that as possessed man like a poison. Man is infected and polluted with a sin nature since the disobedience of Adam. Christ can take care of that problem.
The trespass offering points to Christ as the one who deals with the problem of specific trespasses which issue from the sin nature. Man commits sins and trespasses because they issue from the sin nature with which he has been polluted. The trespass offering shows Christ solving the specific offenses and transgressions that are commited by the sinner.
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Message 3 of 11 (310678)
05-10-2006 7:31 AM
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05-10-2006 7:01 AM


Good Topic
Good topic idea, but you haven't really written an opening post, you just outlined what you are going to discuss and show.
For me to promote this, I need you to make your opening case like you did in your The Tree of Life as God's Life thread. The length of that opening is good and even double that length would not be considered too long.
Let me know when you are ready for me to read it again.

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jaywill
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Message 4 of 11 (310680)
05-10-2006 8:03 AM
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05-10-2006 7:31 AM


New OP
Thankyou.
Try this statement below the line as an OP please.
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The worshipping God through the offerings in the book of Leviticus were types and symbols of various aspects of worshipping God through apprectiation of the final offering of the Son of God for man's salvation. Christ in His final all-inclusive offering of Himself to God for man's, can be detected in the Levitical offerings in their different types and aspects.
The prescribed manner in which God directed Moses and Aaron to perform the Levitical offerings were meant to be precursers of the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus the Son of God. These offerings symbolized that we are to bring to God our experience and appreciation of what Christ has done for man and God to bring us together with one another and with God.
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Message 5 of 11 (310739)
05-10-2006 12:07 PM
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05-10-2006 8:03 AM


Re: New OP
Combine post 4 and post 2 as your opening post and I'll promote it.
I assume you want it in Bible study.
Make those changes to post 1 and let me know when it is ready.

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jaywill
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Message 6 of 11 (311334)
05-12-2006 5:44 AM
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Re: Good Topic
Admin,
Please consider the revized OP and the first post after it as my suggestion as to how to start this discussion.
If this meets your approval I am ready.

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Message 7 of 11 (311338)
05-12-2006 6:46 AM
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05-12-2006 5:44 AM


Re: Good Topic
quote:
Through comparing the plain teachings, particularly by not exclussively, of the New Testament I like to discuss if the Levitical offerings contain any symbolism pointing to the act of Jesus Christ
to the will of God.
I assume you mean:
Through comparing the plain teachings, particularly but not exclussively, of the New Testament I'd like to discuss if the Levitical offerings contain any symbolism pointing to the act of Jesus Christ or to the will of God.
If "or" is not what is intended in the last bit, please make that part clearer.
Make that sentence clearer and I will promote 1 and 2.
In the future, when proposing a topic, please make your first post your opening argument with no additional posts. The first post sets the tone for the thread and is what moderators base their decision concerning off-topic warnings.
quote:
This is a follow up of concepts I maintained in the discussion of Why Cain's Offering Was Not Accepted.
If there is a post in the Cain discussion that makes these concepts clear, a link to that post would be nice also or just a general link to the thread.
Let me know when you are done.

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jaywill
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Message 8 of 11 (311368)
05-12-2006 9:38 AM
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05-12-2006 6:46 AM


Re: Good Topic
Through comparing the plain teachings, particularly but not exclussively, of the New Testament I'd like to discuss if the Levitical offerings contain any symbolism pointing to the act of Jesus Christ or to the will of God.
The "or" is not clear to me either. It must be a typo.
The "but" simply meant that I was not going restrict myself to the New Testament when offering collaborative evidence that the Levitical offerings should be taken as types of Christ's offering.

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Message 9 of 11 (311392)
05-12-2006 11:19 AM
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05-12-2006 9:38 AM


Re: Good Topic
The three paragraphs you had were good. Why'd you change?
You still need to fix the typos to make that sentence clear.
Let me knkow when you are done.
PD

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jaywill
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Message 10 of 11 (311703)
05-13-2006 7:54 AM
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05-12-2006 11:19 AM


Re: Good Topic
I have decided that I am not ready to embark on this discussion.
Please discard these posts. I am headed down the wrong path due to a misunderstanding of my own subject.
Perhaps latter I'll try something very similiar again.
Thanks

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Message 11 of 11 (311711)
05-13-2006 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by jaywill
05-13-2006 7:54 AM


Topic Withdrawn
As you wish.
I will close this proposal and I look forward to your similar one.

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