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Message 16 of 35 (774390)
12-17-2015 3:49 AM
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12-16-2015 1:54 PM


Make a fucking phone call as good as my old analog Motorola bag phone. You can tell this stuff was designed by gen-Xers, the main thing it's supposed to do it does like shit.

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Message 17 of 35 (774392)
12-17-2015 8:07 AM


Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
Lists. You need to be able to both add and remove items from a list. For example, take a grocery list. Say you shop for groceries once a week. During the week you want to add items to your grocery list, and as you stroll through the grocery stores you want to remove items.
Adding items to the list should be simple, just a verbal, "Add oranges to the grocery list." Even better would be if it could understand, "We need oranges," or "Remember oranges," or "Get oranges." I think current smart phones come pretty close to this, maybe something like, "Open grocery list. Add oranges." Can anyone fill in the specifics?
As you stroll through the grocery store filling your cart, it should know where you are and what's in that isle, reciting each item as you approach its location. You could just respond, "Check," as you place the item in your cart, and it would remove the item from the list. If the smartphone had recited several items (perhaps the grocery store had rearranged their shelves and not updated the database) then you might have to say, "Corn, check; peas, check" or even better, "Corn and peas, check". Again, can anyone fill in the specifics of removing items from a list? I should mention that in another thread I was informed that some grocery stores already have their item locations on-line for apps to take advantage of. True?
If there are items that are usually on your list but aren't this week, the smartphone should inquire about them: "No wine this week?"
So that your hands can be free, the smartphone should be able to understand you even if it's in your pocket or purse. Or carts should have a little smartphone holder.
As you approach the checkout station the smartphone should remind you of forgotten items.
It's not uncommon for people to use more than one grocery store. Perhaps the fruit is better in one store, the meat better in another, and the prices on dairy products better in yet another. The smartphone should learn what items you tend to buy in which store. If you're price conscious then the smartphone should know the prices and tell you, "Don't buy the milk here this week, it's cheaper at Kroger's." And you should be able to give the smartphone additional information, such as, "I'm never going to buy milk at Kroger's because their sell-by dates are too soon."
I hope these examples of what I wish smartphones could do are beginning to shape a more accurate impression in people's minds of how I really feel about smartphones. Before smartphones I had no particular desire to peck away on a tiny screen or send text messages or check the Internet or my email or be available to anyone who wanted to call, email or text me anytime or anywhere. Now that smartphones exist and are amazing and extremely capable, I still have no desire to do these things.
But helping me arrive home with my groceries and not going, "Doh! I forgot the green peppers," now that would be something I could really use.
My current system is to keep a written list. I add items to the list during the week, then check off items in the grocery store. This is a very simple and very efficient system, but it does have drawbacks. Sometimes I forget the list. Sometimes I forget a pen and can't check off items. Sometimes I stop looking at the list because I think I've got the remaining items firmly in mind, but I don't. Sometimes my eyes just roll by an unchecked item and it doesn't make it into the cart.
But still, a written list is an excellent system. For a smartphone to replace my written grocery list, the smartphone would have to make the task easier and simpler. Written lists are incredibly easy and simple, so replacing them is a significant challenge.
AbE: Just thought of another important item. One side of a cell phone conversation: "Honey, I can't get to the grocery store today, can you do the grocery shopping? You can? Great? Phone, send my grocery list to my wife. Okay, thanks, love you!"
In other words, you need to be able to easily and quickly transfer lists between smartphones.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : AbE.
Edited by Percy, : Typo.

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Message 18 of 35 (774393)
12-17-2015 9:25 AM
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12-17-2015 8:07 AM


Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
It seems your fixation is with voice control.
Your various needs/requests can all (or mostly) be completed with a couple of taps. Some of them can (I believe) be done by voice.
I have a problem with voice control, in that I'm not keen to walk around loudly verbalising all my organisational details. apart from the issue of being in a noisy environment, i don't want everyone on the train or wherever hearing my plans for the day, intentions or grocery lists.
Also, an issue with some of what you are saying is the information your phone has (eg. recording insurance co. conversations) could conceivably be sensitive and controlling that info once you have uploaded it to the cloud, or released it by email or tweet or whatever becomes difficult.
I recently switched from ios to windows phone and the "cortana" app seems well able to advise me if I need a raincoat or quickly add a date to my calendar by voice request/command.
But with if your phone were to automatically turn conversations into calendar appointments it would need to have some way to filter out passing reference to a date as opposed to intended appointments.
Your grocery store issues (auto list completion/checking) would certainly require the store to enabled and compatible with your phone/app.
But what happens when your multiple grocery stores change, cheap meat in one this week but in another next week etc. no definite pattern for the phone to pick up on.
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Message 19 of 35 (774395)
12-17-2015 9:31 AM
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12-17-2015 8:07 AM


Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
Lists. You need to be able to both add and remove items from a list. ...
I use an ap called "inkpad" which can be check listed or not. You can have it on several devices (laptop, phone, tablet) and sync it between devices when you make changes. After you check items off while shopping you have the option to move checked items to the bottom or delete them.
Moving them to the bottom for repeat shopping items means you can uncheck them when it is time to get more.
I also use it for packing lists and kayaking lists (stuff to take along).
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Message 20 of 35 (774404)
12-17-2015 11:06 AM


I want a smartphone that can control other smartphones - like the kid who plays hiphop music at full volume on speaker on the bus, or the person who talks for twenty minutes without taking a breath and without saying anything. I want the power to gently and safely melt those phones - or optionally at Christmastime to turn them into gingerbread cookies.

  
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Message 21 of 35 (774406)
12-17-2015 11:11 AM
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12-17-2015 9:31 AM


Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
{ sigh }
InkPad sounds great, and maybe it *is* great, but I just went to their website (Inkpad Notepad - The easy, elegant notes app for Android, iOS, and the web) and found almost no information at all. What's more the links at the top of the page are really bad. This kind of thing is rampant. What is happening to websites today?
The "Sign in" link and the "Create account" link both take you to the same page: Google Login. Once you're logged in these same links instead send you to a blank notes page. If both links take you to the same place, why are there two links? And if links are going to take you to a notes page, why don't they say so?
The "Download" link takes you to a Google Play page with a little (very little) information about InkPad and an "Install" link. When I click "Install" it tells me, "You haven't accessed the Google Play Store app (the white shopping bag icon) on your device with this email account." I'm on my computer - I see no "white shopping bag icon". I go to the Google Play app store and try to install Facebook. I get the same message. I think this wants me to be on an IOS or Android device. Does that sound right?
The "Go Premium" link has a small amount of other information, and also informs me that the non-premium version has ads.
I'm not critisizing Inkpad, just the website. Google Play's website is pretty bad too if the problem truly is that I'm not on a mobile device, but it can't figure that out. This is the cue for people who think it's me that's stupid and not the websites to chime in. My own opinion remains that many people's standards have been beaten down so far they'll accept anything that's put out there and think it's great.
So, maybe you know the couple things I was wondering about InkPad. Does it accept voice? And can I share lists with other people?
--Percy

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Message 22 of 35 (774424)
12-17-2015 3:27 PM
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12-17-2015 9:31 AM


Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
I downloaded InkPad to my iPad and noted the following issues:
  1. When your account is created you're given a "Welcome to InkPad Notepad" note that is a list of what it calls "helpful tips". I found a couple problems:
    1. GET BACK TO THE HOME SCREEN
      Tap on the "left arrow" at the bottom of any note. If you have multiple notes open, you may have to do this several times to get back to the home screen.
      There is no "left arrow" at the bottom of any note, not on my computer and not on my iPad.
    2. SHARE A NOTE
      Press the "share" icon at the bottom of a note. InkPad will then show all the ways you can share that note, including email and SMS.
      There is no share icon at the bottom of a note, not on my computer and not on my iPad.
  2. When a note is open, there appears to be no way on my computer to check an item. There is a "checkmark" icon on my iPad which puts it in "check/uncheck" items mode. And there's a "notes" icon to return to normal note display mode.
  3. When I check an item on my iPad and then examine the note on my computer, the check appears as "[X] " prefixed to the item. I can manually insert and delete the "[X] " and save the note, and the change will appear on my iPad the next time it syncs. But there is no automatic way to check and uncheck items on my computer.
  4. When a note is open, the vertical "..." icon opens a menu that includes elements to manipulate checked items. There doesn't appear to be an equivalent menu on my computer.
  5. The items of a note can't be sorted.
  6. You cannot create a multi-line item in a note. An item can wrap, but you can't insert your own linefeeds. If all your items are short and fit on one line then it is easy to tell when items begin and end, but when you have long items then the boundaries are unclear, sort of like paragraphs would be hard to identify in a hardcopy book if there were no indentation.
    Obviously it is possible for items to include linefeeds since the "helpful tips" list has them, but linefeed insertion isn't a feature made available to users.
  7. There's no voice option.
I could make this work for me, but I don't think it would be easier than handwritten lists. It would just be a different way of doing what I already do.
Sorting of lists is something that's important to me. One of my two remaining tennis rackets broke last week, so with only one left I have to get another one. But they don't make my racket anymore, so I have to select a new one (and buy two or three). Off the Internet I was able to grab a list of the top 100 players on the ATP computer and their rackets, place that list in a file on my computer, then use "sort" to sort the list by tennis racket type so I could easily see which models were most popular (Babolat Aeropro Drive topped the list). Anyone have a smartphone that will do this?
I'd like a list app that could do that for me. That would be truly smart.
--Percy

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Message 23 of 35 (774440)
12-17-2015 5:19 PM
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Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
The "Sign in" link and the "Create account" link both take you to the same page: Google Login. ...
Yes, forgot to mention, it uses "google" to sync between platforms, and the lists are stored in google space.
... , and also informs me that the non-premium version has ads.
So far the ads have been innocuous banners at the bottom of the page. Not enough to make me up to premium.

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Message 24 of 35 (774441)
12-17-2015 5:25 PM
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Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
2. When a note is open, there appears to be no way on my computer to check an item. There is a "checkmark" icon on my iPad which puts it in "check/uncheck" items mode. And there's a "notes" icon to return to normal note display mode.
3. When I check an item on my iPad and then examine the note on my computer, the check appears as "[X] " prefixed to the item. I can manually insert and delete the "[X] " and save the note, and the change will appear on my iPad the next time it syncs. But there is no automatic way to check and uncheck items on my computer.
It would appear that your ipad is in checkbox mode and your computer is in text list mode -- check the setting on your computer -- you should be able to click a check icon at the top or a text icon at the top to toggle.
abe -- I see they have added a shopping cart icon to add the option to shop on-line.
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Message 25 of 35 (774442)
12-17-2015 6:06 PM


It is one of the mostest stupendis tools I own
My wife was researching smartphones for several years before we switched from our flip phones. She got a deal on a pair of Samsung Note 2s when the Note 3 was released. The phones were free and the data plan was cheap and there was no contract, in the Spring of 2014.
We briefly tried iPhones in 2012 but had had issues making iTunes (only way to make iPhone work) work on our windows 7 64 computers.
Two of my traveling pals from the PNW have used iPhones since they came out. When we were on road trips together and they found a place ith WiFi (restaurants, hotels, etc.) out came the phones and I might as well have been alone. I swore I would never do that and I haven't. Checking email takes a few seconds and I'm done.
I have my whole music library on the phone.
I listen to audiobooks on the phone.
I have dozens of journal articles, papers, books, guidebooks for my cameras and equipment, bird guides, dragonfly guides, references, maps, PDFs in a package the slips into a pocket. There is 74Gb of storage that is about 50% full.
I can make written notes with the stylus. The stylus that comes with the note is quite handy and I use it a lot.
I can use voice, pretty much for any operation, where I would type, tap, or click, but some applications are better for voice than others. A blind person should be able to use this phone quite easily.
There are many weather apps, but the one I like best is called Weatherbug. It has a lighting strike mapping app that I use when I am trying to shoot thunderstorms. It shows me active lightning strikes and all strikes within the past 30 minutes. It warns me when there are strikes within certain distances from my position. The only drawback is I have to have cell service or WiFi, which is the case for many apps that have to download data from the web.
I try to use apps that store their data on my phone, like my bird app that has multiple photos, calls, and distribution maps that I can instantly access.
There is a GPS, but I have not been able to make it do all the things that my dedicated GPS unit does, yet, but I expect that is possible.
I have a grocery list app called my groceries that I can make multiple lists on, and that has a database of everything I have put in that it automatically looks for alphabetically. It takes voice and I can add and remove from my working list. My wife and I have not tried sharing, but quick texts are easy to make and check. She has an app for the store we shop at that lets her automatically download discounts to our account including a dollar or more off for a gallon of gas at their pumps.
I have several apps that keep track of my exercise workouts and number of steps I walk and calory intake and burning.
Apps that tell me phases of the moon for any date. Rise and set times for sun and moon and the exact position on the horizon for any spot on earth.
Translation dictionaries that listen to speech, and translate it to or from English.
Apps that download Science Friday and other NPR or interesting podcasts.
I have a gadget from an outfit called Triggertrap that will let me control my cameras from a distance with my phone.
All sorts of calendars, schedulers, and alarms.
Lots of mapping and navigation apps.
I have never played any games or watched movies or video with my phone. but I could.
I have never had my phone completely discharge the battery, but I do keep it topped up when I have access and I carry a spare battery, in case, by some odd quirk of the Universe I got stranded somewhere and my phone was my only lifeline.
Most of my interactions with my smartphone are brief, a minute or two, but I use it for many dozens of things, most days. My phone is one of five tools that I always carry, along with pocketknife, 64Gb flash drive, sharpie marking pen, and ink pen. My phone will function as a flashlight, but that probably sucks power so I usually carry a flashlight that also has a laser pointer built in.
The laser just because it is so cool to have my own pocket sized laser. My friends and I predicted way back in the '60s when Scientific American's Amateur Scientist column had plans to build your own laser that someday we would be able to carry them around with us.
Smartphones are actually starting to get more sophisticated apps and accessories that will allow them to function like Star Trek Tricorders, only better. Mine will analyze WiFi signals, all sorts of physical attributes of sound and light and motion, position, and acceleration. The author Neal Stephenson predicted very smart devices like phones or tablets in The Diamond Age back in 1995.

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Message 26 of 35 (774463)
12-18-2015 8:07 AM
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12-17-2015 5:25 PM


Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
RAZD writes:
It would appear that your ipad is in checkbox mode and your computer is in text list mode -- check the setting on your computer -- you should be able to click a check icon at the top or a text icon at the top to toggle.
I can switch my iPad between text mode and checkbox mode by tapping the icons at the top right. There's a checkbox icon and a text list icon. In checkbox mode there are icons on the far right of each item that do nothing. Something for premium mode, perhaps? Who knows - there's no documentation.
There are no such icons on my computer, but I can manually perform the check/uncheck function by adding or removing "[X] " to the front of items. The URL is Go Premium - Inkpad Notepad# - try it, you'll see. There's also no menu to perform functions like "Move all checked items to the bottom".
I apologize for the off-topic rant I'm about to go off on now: The Web (stationary and mobile) is bad and getting worse. It's bad because there are too many webpages and apps to create and support and not enough talent to do it. If I owned InkPad and it were my sole responsibility it would come out with new features monthly and within a year or two would be amazing. It is instead owned by an entity called Workpail that probably owns a number of other apps and probably has only .25 employees per app at most. It could even just be one or two guys, because it appears to operate out of an apartment or small house in Northampton, Mass. The Bloomberg Business website says this about Workpail:
quote:
Workpail, LLC develops mobile applications. It offers games for mobile phones and web, notes taking application, and social games.
Maybe Internet users (again, both stationary and mobile, both website and app users) think of the people who program their apps and websites as amazing software engineering geniuses, or maybe they just consider the devices or computers amazing and everything about them amazing, and maybe this affects how they think about the apps and websites. If the behavior or organization of an app or website seems difficult or weird or insufficiently functional or has bugs then most people don't think there's anything wrong with it. I don't think this way myself (obviously), so I don't actually know what's going on in these peoplel's brains, but if they're thinking the apps and websites must be great because the people who created them are geniuses or just because the devices are amazing then they're wrong.
Think of the average guy you know - that's how smart these guys are. They have IDE's and scads of software libraries to draw upon, and all they're doing is throwing stuff together with little thought because they're also responsible for six or seven other apps or websites, so it's just "dash off some code and move on." Whether an app is successful or not is very much hit or miss, so most companies just throw a lot of apps out there and hope something sticks. Design? Code reviews? Functional reviews? Quality control? Testing? Forget it!
So that's my rant.
--Percy

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Message 27 of 35 (774464)
12-18-2015 8:18 AM
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Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
I apologize for the off-topic rant I'm about to go off on now: ...
Let me add to that -- google and other search engines have become virtually useless because of garbage overload on the web. Bad and misleading or outright false information pervades the web, drowning out good information. There is so much that searching for something is usually a frustrating expenditure of time, and it is getting so bad that it will make librarians needed to manage a proper search.
Here's an opportunity for the next google geniuses -- have a search engine that only selects websites that pass a "truth in reporting" filter.
:rant:

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Message 28 of 35 (774465)
12-18-2015 8:32 AM
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12-17-2015 9:25 AM


Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
Heathen writes:
I have a problem with voice control, in that I'm not keen to walk around loudly verbalising all my organisational details. apart from the issue of being in a noisy environment, i don't want everyone on the train or wherever hearing my plans for the day, intentions or grocery lists.
Before smartphones there were Personal Digital Assistants (PDA's), and although the device class is mostly gone now, a personal assistant is exactly what I want my smartphone to be. I want it to operate as if it were an actual person following me around all day long and carrying out all my commands. Not physical commands, of course, such as a real person could do, but everything related to remembering and organizing information. I would talk to it and it would understand everything I say. It would recognize ambiguity ("When you said 'next Tuesday', did you mean tomorrow or the one after?"), but it would also be able to resolve ambiguity ("He said Bob, and he knows several Bobs, but there's only one Bob who plays tennis, so he must mean that one.").
I also don't want to be constantly removing and replacing a phone from a pocket. I want it to be effectively invisible. I talk and it somehow hears me as if it were a person standing close beside me. It responds and I hear it, again as if it were a person standing close beside me. I don't want to wear an earphone and microphone. I know, ridiculous expectations, but pretend I'm Steve Jobs and just do it.
And solve this ridiculous charging problem.
Sorry for the way I expressed this - obviously I was talking to the industry just now, not you.
But with if your phone were to automatically turn conversations into calendar appointments it would need to have some way to filter out passing reference to a date as opposed to intended appointments.
Yes. In other words, smart.
--Percy

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Message 29 of 35 (774473)
12-18-2015 10:32 AM
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Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
Yes. In other words, smart.
The trouble is, the next level of smart after this is the Terminators.

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Message 30 of 35 (774474)
12-18-2015 10:41 AM
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Re: Another Thing I Wish a Smartphone Could Do: Grocery Lists
Tanypteryx writes:
The trouble is, the next level of smart after this is the Terminators.
That's a possibility some people speak of, among them Hawking, Musk and Gates. Once machines become intelligent and self-aware they may quickly evolve themselves into a super-intelligence against which we cannot compete.
--Percy

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