Ok. Why not. Let's teach ID in Science class!

ID has been slammed by the scientific community as not being science at all. Just mere flights of fancy and wishful thinking dreamt up as a wedge to shove in the armour of the great and good, to attempt a collapse of that great destroyer of theology: the Theory of Evolution. An attempt to force theology into where theology has no rightful place to be. Slammed because it apparently ignores mountains of (verified) evidence and seems to go out of its way to miss-represent Evolution and the way it works. When you throw in the frequent arguments from incredulity you can understand why they argue ID isn’t science. You can understand why those who dedicate themselves to the teaching of science do not want to be forced to teach this mumbo-jumbo. I agree with them the science class room is no place for this stuff.So the question needs to be asked, should it be taught at all? Is there any merit in brining this concept to young impressionable minds at any stage of their education? Is there a place for it in Religious studies, Philosophy, History.Or should it actually be taught in science class? The YECs want Evolution to be taught with all its gaps and holes explained (an attempt to weaken it as a theory), so then what would be the harm in teaching ID and all it’s problems and errors and misrepresentations?. Surely if both hypotheses are laid out step by step, side by side problem for problem then, can we not trust our children to then see the absurdity of ID?Surely it is a good scientific grounding to be taught how to recognise the good science from the bad.SO why not? Let’s teach ID fully and wholly, with no varnish or leaving anything out let’s give them what they want, and make them realise that this (for them) is a truly bad idea.This message has been edited by ohnhai, 24-10-2005 11:11 AM

I think this has been pretty well covered in the existing ID / education threads... if I'm not mistaken, those who think ID is science favor it in science class, and those who think ID is not science say you can teach it in a religion class, or as an example of bad science.So... I get the feeling this has been well covered.Oh, and here's a similar thread that you may want to check:
http://< !--UB EvC Forum: An educational angle we all could live with? (Philosophy of Science) -->http://EvC Forum: An educational angle we all could live with? (Philosophy of Science)Let me know if you still want to pursue this; if you feel differently I'm willing to promote the topic. But my initial sense is that this has been done, and there's not much new to talk about.Thanks.AbE: It actually looks like the coverage of this basic question in the "Education and Creationism" Forum is not as good as I thought. Still OK, but not great. Like I said, either way is OK with me, but I wanted to give you my take first.This message has been edited by AdminBen, Saturday, 2005/10/22 08:04 AM

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I see Bens point in that the topic has been covered elsewhere. Perhaps you could redefine this topic into a more concise question that has not been covered. Give it a go:

Reword your Title. Make it unique and controversial.(concise, also)

Use those great verbal skills and hit us up with a deep philosophical question/assertion/comment on I.D.

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One of us will promote it within a week if it evolves into something even cooler than it is. ( They do this to me, also in my PNT's!)

Ok , Re vammped the whole thing and givien it a new twist. Seriously turned up the dial on the language and generally had some fun with it.Hope you like.

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