The same A.A. Hodge who stated, "Faith must have adequate evidence, else it is mere superstition.?
Well, most of us do believe we have evidence, I keep saying this is not "blind" faith, it IS based on evidence, lots and lots of evidence that comes to us through witnesses. What Hodge means you don't reveal since you don't quote him but I'd suspect he means what I mean.
Also, the theme of this thread was actually about the complete ridiculousness of the idea of secession merely because a group lost an election, not how can we make two separate, but equal (sound familiar) governments.
Yes, it was about the complete ridculousness of it, only since some of us don't think it's ridiculous that side is getting argued as well. If you want to declare me off topic I guess you can do that.
Now, as per your idea it is completely unfeasible! What happens if someone, looking at evidence as A.A. Hodge said to do, in a red country decides that they no longer believe in God, Jesus, or any of it, but would like rights still? Is the only option you give them deportation or conversion to maintain their rights?
Again, I'm quite sure that Hodge didn't mean evidence in the sense you mean it.
Since we will have laws against atheism I suppose those are the options, yes. They will have to live under our laws as written or leave.
Are you allowing those with differing views to vote or is this to be a society where decisions are made only by the "True" Christians...
This would have to be determined as the state took form, what limits there might be on those who have alien views. They certainly would not be allowed to hold office or teach their views, but they might be allowed to vote in some elections depending on what the election was about, since they should have the right to arrange some things according to their wishes if they want to do so among people whose views they have come to hate.
But of course all these possibilities do just underscore that this whole idea is no doubt not feasible as you suggest.
if you are allowed to vote without being a "True" Christian, then what happens when the person who looked at the evidence begins to speak out against the injustices caused by the "True" Christian majority in this society? This can lead to a paradigm shift within your own hypothetical country.
See above. This sort of thing has to be guarded against in my state if it is to remain a Christian state.
How will you silence them? And the fact that you would need to silence them is a great reason that what you are proposing is a Theocracy that will ultimately fail.
Yes you are probably right. The situation NOW in the USA, however, is that it is the Christians who are being put in the position of being silenced or leave, and very possibly worse as many of us read the signs. That is why I'm entertaining the idea of secession at all.
How different were the views of the Kurds when they are compared with other Sunni Muslims? The small details matter when you have removed all large differences and this will be a problem in your proposed utopian society as well. Saddam did not deal with those with slightly different beliefs very kindly, now did he?
I understand that you only want to deal with the basic hypothetical, not with the how the details would work, but without details we cannot determine if your idea is even remotely possible.
ABE - My mistake, not all Kurds are Sunnis, but rather the majority of them are. So, the argument still stands although it seems to be more ethnic based than religion....but the idea of slight differences still plays.
This would have to do with how well the laws are written, understood and enforced. Nevertheless, I agree that in this fallen world all this is probably not possible. But again, it's the Christians who are being marginalized in the USA these days, that's why secession looks good to me.
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