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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I had a guy from Jordan over for a BBQ once, and he made something called kafka (I think). Looked like a sausage on a stick, smelled like shit on a stick. Stunk up the whole dam house.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
quote: Let's not forget that the Europeans also benefit from the current global economic situation. Their very high material standards of living are due to the exploitive nature of post-colonial "globalization", which is maintained, in part, by US military and foreign policy. "The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." -- George Bernard Shaw
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5872 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Sounds like the same stuff Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler sells in Ankh-Morporkh. "Named meat" on a stick.
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Legend Member (Idle past 5006 days) Posts: 1226 From: Wales, UK Joined: |
quote: it's a bit like watching a car accident happen on television. You can scream 'stop, don't do it!' all you like but there's fuck all you can do to prevent it from happening. That's what you'd expect the people at the scene to try to do. "In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5872 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
it's a bit like watching a car accident happen on television. You can scream 'stop, don't do it!' all you like but there's fuck all you can do to prevent it from happening. That's what you'd expect the people at the scene to try to do. Heh. Watching this administration over the last six years IS just like watching a car accident happening. Bush currently has the lowest approval rating of any president in recent memory. OTOH, we did vote him in again last go-around. I think there's something fundamentally flawed with the system. However, if you'd care to re-read the exchange between holmes and myself, you'll see the thrust of the comment you referenced is that there were sufficient European nations opposed to the invasion of Iraq - adamantly, I might add - they didn't do anything to halt it either, using those diplomatic and economic pressures they could have brought to bear. In essence, then, neither of us have any room to talk.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
Jar.
You're entire life has been within the village in "The Castle". I am 3/4ths through the book, and after finishing a chapter dealing with the father of Olga attempting to get forgiveness for Amalia - to fix his family, have realized the truth about all of our existences within this nation, and within this continent, within this earth of humans that not only exploit but imprison us. We don't even see it. Well none of you do, do you? hahaha Can't you see that you are inside of the village? You can't excape it. Everyone here is inside of it. Haha, it's so absurd that it's hilarious. It's hysterical. We have no freedom, hahahahahhahaha, hahhahahahhahaha. We are the village sir. We cannot be free. It is all over. Can't you see it?? hahahahahahahahaq It's done. There is no freedom, we are over sir. We are over........................................................... Edited by AdminJar, : take out some stupid periods.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
Is it worth having a system, as our society is and functions than to have supposed anarchy?
There would not be anarchy. If a group of people had a common and relative understanding about what is good and right, then their would be not be anarchy. There would be education, and working for food, and survival, there would be freedom, but there would also be restriction based upon one's love for the others in the society, and one's committment to making life wonderful for all of those within that society. We would not be limited by rules and regulations for others to exploit, and gain from it. We would not have to fear a "government" of workings which we do not know. When we are born, and old enough to understand, we would be taught that society is for a just, and beautiful cause. That the work, and the sacrifice is a necessity for the ones that we care about, and for nothing else. There wouldn't be corruption. There would be righteousness, and books. There would be music, and art. There would be the best things, there would be science. But would there be technology? And is it a bad thing if there weren't? If there weren't space shuttles, and cars, computers and televisions. Would we as humans be worse off? I answer with a resounding NO. We would be fine. We would transcend. We would know that we exist. We would know that a God exists. We would know that we must strive to learn, and strive for what is true. We would know to be like God.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Aren't you a little young to be on drugs?
Uncalled for. Take a 24 hour break. AdminJar Edited by AdminJar, : No reason given.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
prophex writes:
Yeah, and we'd be burning witches and putting intellectuals under house arrest like the good old times when everyone was either god-fearing or roasted.
There wouldn't be corruption. There would be righteousness, and books. There would be music, and art. There would be the best things, there would be science. But would there be technology? And is it a bad thing if there weren't? If there weren't space shuttles, and cars, computers and televisions. Would we as humans be worse off? I answer with a resounding NO. We would be fine. We would transcend. We would know that we exist. We would know that a God exists. We would know that we must strive to learn, and strive for what is true. We would know to be like God.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
lol
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nator Member (Idle past 2170 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: What if everyone agreed that it was "good and right" that girls shouldn't be educated because their place was in the home making babies?
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MangyTiger Member (Idle past 6354 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: |
What if everyone agreed that it was "good and right" that girls shouldn't be educated because their place was in the home making babies? And cooking. And cleaning. Oh and don't forget the laundry... The scariest thing is that in the last couple of years I've seen interviews on TV over here with groups who actually do advocate this. Mostly they were Christian groups in the US, although there were a couple of Islamic groups as well. Oops! Wrong Planet
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
What if everyone agreed that it was "good and right" that girls shouldn't be educated because their place was in the home making babies? Everyone would not come to such a decision. You forget that within a society such as this, there are no motives which are for power. Why would a person living in such a community want to control, would they not realize that this is a society filled with those whom you strive to serve. A torturous device as the one described has no place in a society of educated individuals who see freedom as a precious asset. An easy approach to my argument of an ideal society, would be to say that humans would want power, and material. That humans are corrupt creatures, capable of the greatest evils. Within a community such as this, where those who live struggle for the benefit of the entire community, where their lives are dedicated to the society, not just themselves, there would be no atrocities as described. You say it is idealism, but it is apparent that if humans were together in such a system, they would realize that to harm another is only to harm oneself. Values would be instilled in them from not only education, but from the way their society actually functions. It would be the best reminder to do right. Circumstances would arise where an individual would steal, or even worse. The individual would have to be taught the workings of their system. It would have to be apparent that an individual who understands would do no such things.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
The scariest thing is that in the last couple of years I've seen interviews on TV over here with groups who actually do advocate this. Mostly they were Christian groups in the US, although there were a couple of Islamic groups as well.
scary scary scary scary scary
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nator Member (Idle past 2170 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
What if everyone agreed that it was "good and right" that girls shouldn't be educated because their place was in the home making babies? quote: This is how things used to be. Why couldn't they be that way again?
quote: To be human is to to want at least some kind of power; power over one's own body at the very least.
quote: Who says that educating females would make their ability to serve others better? Wouldn't it just get in the way of serving their children and their men?
quote: "Individuals" who "all think the same way"? I'm not sure that makes sense.
quote: Hitler was dedicated to his society. "Dedication to one's society" means that the individual isn't important anymore. You can't have everyone agreeing about what is good and right and also maintain individualism.
quote: ...and individual identity would die. What you are describing is a kind of "benevolent fascism".
quote: But what if he is hungry and needs food to survive?
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