What is God's Purpose for being?

I don't agree with this... (As long as you have been here you must know this isn't true) But for the sake of the argument I will go along with this...Why would God bother to exist if he has no purpose besides being God?
Why would God’s mind be so complicated (it must) if he has no purpose besides just being?You see we can apply the same "logic" to God... how come Christians don't?

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Ok Jar I guess I agree... But this isn't the idea of "Purpose" Christians seem to have...

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Can't recall anything in life I'd assign to god. If we are not in charge od our destiny do we have free will?

That is a good question but I think that is going off topic

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Well, let's go on to the next step.Let's look back again at that two year old.You said that a two year old does not have to have a purpose, but that a parent could provide a purpose for the two year old.So, is it not also reasonable to state that while an adult does not have to have a purpose, can have a purpose that is either self generated or provided from an external source.Would you agree with that?This message has been edited by jar, 10-17-2004 10:17 PM

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Sounds reasonable to me. Anyone else?This message has been edited by Phatboy, 10-18-2004 04:01 AM

This one is hard to answer. I could go to the Bible and pull up some scriptures, but IF the question is to be directed at God and His business BEFORE we were around, I can only ask Him directly. Let me attempt to have you frame your point,DC85. Are you attempting to assert that having a purpose is NOT a necessary trait of human existance? OR...are you asking for feedback just to watch our various thought processes in response to your question??
I will wing it with your question....God had US as one of His main purposes before we were actually created. I am uncertain as to the reason that He created an entire Universe. I do NOT rule out life on other planets, nor do I rule out that Creation was for God and not for Us. In the Bible, God makes it a point through the human authors to let us know His thought process. He seems to want us to acknowledge Him as the Origin and the Center of all meaning. Indeed, He commands us to Love Him above all else. I can understand that from the viewpoint of one who does not believe in God, much Biblical dialogue is to be ignored. Another question for you, DC85. Do you believe that humans need to pool their wisdom as a source in order to find answers to the questions and problems that we have? If so, are you willing to include those of us who have given our individual minds over to the belief that God is OUR source? Or do we interfere with the unbiased thought pool of pure secular thinkers??
Also...if you equate human justification with Gods justification, are you advocating a Popeye Philosophy? < !--UB -->< !--UB -->< !--UE-->This message has been edited by Phatboy, 10-18-2004 04:32 AM

Yes. Why? Because we are made in his image..."human attributes"=attributes of our created god.

Mike,
I think you need to actually test what you say before
1) no purpose by god DOES NOT EQUAL no purpose in life.
2) So, the only way to avoid being selfish, raping, and murdering (I'm sure among other eye-opening atrocities) is to get purpose from the christian god? Interesting.....hehe not.
For the record, the 2-year old is here and exists at the adult's leisure! Children ensure our race does not die out. Child does not equal adult. Children are either unplanned or our own selfish reasons (keep a husband, our joy, our happiness, our version of immortality, help with the farm, etc). I think on a certain level that is selfish if not malicious.

Sorry Jar, I've been away a couple of days. I wasn't faulting the logic you were presenting. However, I am getting a bit nit-picky. I'll admit why: it feels as though you are about to wield the big scary weapon of Logic (I'm not sure whether for good or ill!), and I don't want to allow you any ground I don't think you should have.Specifically, I'm questioning if 2-year-olds get all their "purpose" from their parents (aren't the things they do to please themselves - their self-chosen "purposes" often just as fulfilling as those imposed upon them)I think the real problem that we have is understanding what a purpose is.2)If

Sorry Jar, I've been away a couple of days. I wasn't faulting the logic you were presenting. However, I am getting a bit nit-picky. I'll admit why: it feels as though you are about to wield the big scary weapon of Logic (I'm not sure whether for good or ill!), and I don't want to allow you any ground I don't think you should have.Specifically, I'm questioning if 2-year-olds get all their "purpose" from their parents (aren't the things they do to please themselves - their self-chosen "purposes" often just as fulfilling as those imposed upon them)I think the real problem that we have is understanding what a purpose is.This message has been edited by Tusko, 10-20-2004 08:57 AM

I would not fault that statement at all and it has no real negative impact on where I'm heading. If you look at a newborn and watch them explore their new world, first time the eyes focus, those wonderful things designed to stick in your mout called toes, they are certainly examples of self-directed purpose.Thak you for the addition. Still waiting dc's contribution.

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well let's see. remember the burning bush story when moses ask god what his name was? that was an attempt by moses to control god since a spirit is named by it's purpose. once you know the purpose of a spirit, you can control it. the angels are named by their purposes, etc... check your hebrew. so when god uses an obscure form of the verb 'to be' as his name, he demonstrates that moses can't control him because his purpose is 'to be'. that's his job. just merely to exist. and as we are made in the image of god, i suppose then that our purpose is to seek to merely exist.

Brennakimi, that was a great explanation! One of the best that I've heard! BTW Does anyone know why we can't find Noahs Ark?

haha.