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Faith 
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Message 1471 of 5796 (851572)
04-29-2019 5:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1468 by PaulK
04-29-2019 12:06 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
THE VIDEO IN [MSG=1423] IS THE ONLY POINT HERE: TRUMP SUPPORTED NOBODY BUT PEOPLE HE THOUGHT WERE THERE TO PROTEST AGAINST PULLING DOWN HISTORICAL MONUMENTS, HE DID NOT SUPPORT WHITE SUPREMACISTS OR NEO NAZIS, HE EXPLICITLY CONDEMNED THEM MORE THAN ONCE. THE SUBJECT HERE IS NOT SOME LIST YOU FOUND OF WHO SAID THEY WERE THERE, BUT WHAT TRUMP THOUGHT AND SAID. HIS IMPRESSION WAS THAT THERE WERE WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND LEFTIST ANTIFA THERE WHO WERE VIOLENT AND WHOM HE CALLED "BAD PEOPLE," AND OTHER PEOPLE THERE PEACEFULLY PROTESTING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HISTORICAL ISSUE OF PULLING DOWN STATUES. THAT WAS HIS IMPRESSION AND IT'S HIS IMPRESSION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT HE THOUGHT AND SAID, YOU MISERABLE LYING LEFTIST MORON.
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Message 1472 of 5796 (851573)
04-29-2019 5:50 AM
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04-29-2019 5:39 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
quote:
TRUMP SUPPORTED NOBODY BUT PEOPLE HE THOUGHT WERE THERE TO PROTEST AGAINST PULLING DOWN HISTORICAL MONUMENTS...
And those people were White Supremacists there to attend a White Supremacist rally, with the statue a secondary issue.
quote:
THE SUBJECT HERE IS NOT SOME LIST YOU FOUND OF WHO SAID THEY WERE THERE, BUT WHAT TRUMP THOUGHT AND SAID. HIS IMPRESSION WAS THAT THERE WERE WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND LEFTIST ANTIFA THERE WHO WERE VIOLENT AND WHOM HE CALLED "BAD PEOPLE," AND OTHER PEOPLE THERE PEACEFULLY PROTESTING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HISTORICAL ISSUE OF PULLING DOWN

In other words Trump’s “perfect” answer confused the issue by talking about imaginary people. Perhaps you could explain how Trump could get it so wrong and why he’s still wrong, even now.

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Faith 
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Message 1473 of 5796 (851574)
04-29-2019 5:57 AM
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04-29-2019 5:50 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
And those people were White Supremacists there to attend a White Supremacist rally, with the statue a secondary issue.
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THAT WAS NOT HIS IMPRESSION AND HIS IMPRESSION IS WHAT COUNTS IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HIS POINT OF VIEW. BUT ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS FINDING A WAY TO SMEAR HIM AND THAT TAKES IGNORING HIS POINT OF VIEW.
In other words Trump’s “perfect” answer confused the issue by talking about imaginary people. Perhaps you could explain how Trump could get it so wrong and why he’s still wrong, even now.
HE WAS WATCHING IT APPARENTLY ON TV AND THAT WAS HIS IMPRESSION AND FOR YOU TO INSIST HIS IMPRESSION WAS WRONG IS THE PROBLEM. WHAT IF IT WAS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, IT'S JUST YOUR DESIRE TO MAKE HIM OUT TO BE WRONG. BUT IF HE WAS IT WAS STILL HIS IMPRESSION WHICH IS SUPPOSEDLY THE TOPIC HERE AND THAT MAKES YOU WRONG.

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Message 1474 of 5796 (851575)
04-29-2019 6:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1473 by Faith
04-29-2019 5:57 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
quote:
THAT WAS NOT HIS IMPRESSION AND HIS IMPRESSION IS WHAT COUNTS IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HIS POINT OF VIEW. BUT ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS FINDING A WAY TO SMEAR HIM AND THAT TAKES IGNORING HIS POINT OF VIEW.
I would hope that the President of the United States would be better informed - and willing to correct his misstatements instead of strongly endorsing them.
quote:
HE WAS WATCHING IT APPARENTLY ON TV AND THAT WAS HIS IMPRESSION AND FOR YOU TO INSIST HIS IMPRESSION WAS WRONG IS THE PROBLEM. WHAT IF IT WAS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, IT'S JUST YOUR DESIRE TO MAKE HIM OUT TO BE WRONG. BUT IF HE WAS IT WAS STILL HIS IMPRESSION WHICH IS SUPPOSEDLY THE TOPIC HERE AND THAT MAKES YOU WRONG.
Then he ought to know that the “very quiet” protest involved chanting anti-Semitic and Nazi slogans. I did.
And the evidence is quite clear that “Unite the Right” was a White Supremacist rally, they were the people with the permits and if Trump confuses the issue - as you are claiming - by getting things badly wrong then he has a serious problem.

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Faith 
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Message 1475 of 5796 (851576)
04-29-2019 6:15 AM
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04-29-2019 6:03 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Now you want to change the subject. Not happening. The whole point here is what he meant and he was not supporting white supremacists or neo-Nazis, he was condemning them, and that is very clear on that video. Period.

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Faith 
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Message 1476 of 5796 (851577)
04-29-2019 6:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1462 by 1.61803
04-26-2019 10:22 AM


The GOP talking point marching orders are as follows:
Trump did not support white supremacist.
Trump did not say there are fine people on both sides:FAKE NEWS:
Trump does not support racism.
Fake news media is taking him out of context.
Any attempt to link Trump to white supremacist must be denied.
Hey idiot! Watch the video in Message 1423 all of it preferably but specifically at 1:57 and at the very end. Which should make it very clear that
  • TRUMP DID NOT SUPPORT WHITE SUPREMACY AND IN FACT CONDEMNED IT VERY CLEARLY.
  • TRUMP DID SAY THERE ARE FINE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES BY WHICH HE MEANT THE NONVIOLENT PEOPLE HE ASSUMED WERE NOT PART OF THE WHITE SUPREMACIST OR ANTIFA GROUPS BUT PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY WANTED TO PROTEST ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER OF THE ISSUE OF THE HISTORICAL MEANING OF PULLING DOWN STATUES.
  • TRUMP DOES NOT SUPPORT RACISM. NOT ONE WORD HE HAS EVER SAID IS RACIST. THAT IS COMPLETELY THE INVENTION OF THE SMEAR TACTICS OF THE POLITICALLY CORRECT LEFTISTS, AND YES IT'S FAKE NEWS, MADE UP FOR POLITICAL EFFECT, WITHOUT A SHRED OF TRUTH TO IT.
  • FAKE NEWS MEDIA IS NOT JUST TAKING HIM OUT OF CONTEXT, IT'S MAKING UP TOTAL CRAP OUT OF NOTHING.
  • AND OF COURSE LINKING TRUMP TO WHITE SUPREMACY IS TO BE DENIED BECAUSE IT'S ABSOLUTELY FALSE, YES FAKE NEWS, MADE UP AS PART OF THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN BY LYING LEFTIST MEDIA.
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Message 1477 of 5796 (851578)
04-29-2019 6:55 AM
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04-29-2019 6:15 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
But I am not changing the subject. You claim that Trump confused the issue by defending imaginary people. And presumably you are blaming right-wing media for Trump’s mistake when you say he got his ideas from TV coverage.
(Although Trump should certainly get a proper briefing from his staff instead of relying on any media before making public pronouncements.)
If you offer a defence of Trump it is part of the discussion and you do not get to declare it off-limits by claiming that it is a “change of subject”.

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Faith 
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Message 1478 of 5796 (851579)
04-29-2019 7:10 AM
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04-29-2019 6:55 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
tRUMP CONFUSED NOTHING. THE IMAGINARY PEOPLE ARE YOUR INVENTION. HE WS REPORTING ON WHATEVER HE SAW, AND WHAT HE SAID SHOWS CLEARLY THAT HE DOES NOT SUPPORT WHITE SUPREMACY OR NEO NAZISM OR ANY OF THE OTHER EVIL ACCUSATIONS AGAINST HIM. YOU BLITHERING IDIOT.

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Faith 
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Message 1479 of 5796 (851580)
04-29-2019 7:11 AM


WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS IF THERE ARE ANY HONEST LEFTISTS HERE WHO SEE THE TRUTH, OR IS EVERYBODY A TRUMP-HATING IDIOT WHO CAN'T SEE BEYOND HIS STUPID BIAS? THAT'S THE CHOICE, AN IDIOT OR A COWARD WHO WON'T SUPPORT THE TRUTH.
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Message 1480 of 5796 (851581)
04-29-2019 7:19 AM
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04-29-2019 7:10 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
quote:
tRUMP CONFUSED NOTHING. THE IMAGINARY PEOPLE ARE YOUR INVENTION
So when he talked about “very fine people on both sides” he knew that one of the sides was a White Supremacist rally ?
quote:
HE WS REPORTING ON WHATEVER HE SAW,
Then how come he “saw” people chanting anti-Semitic and Nazi slogans as a “very peaceful” and not at all Nazi protest ?

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Faith 
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Message 1481 of 5796 (851582)
04-29-2019 7:27 AM
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04-29-2019 7:19 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
OBVIOUSLY HE DIDN'T SEE THAT YOU BLITHERING IDIOT, OR IF HE DID HE INCLUDED THEM IN HIS PHRASE "BAD PEOPLE."
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Message 1482 of 5796 (851583)
04-29-2019 7:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1470 by Faith
04-29-2019 5:33 AM


The Fake News That is Trump
LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID
Fake news. Lies. Every word.
We can tell when Trump is lying. All we need do is watch him. His lips move.
The man doesn't know how to tell the truth.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 1483 of 5796 (851584)
04-29-2019 7:34 AM
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04-29-2019 7:27 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
quote:
OBVIOUSLY HE DIDN'T SEE THAT YOU BLITHERING IDIOT.
If you get things wrong, it isn’t me who’s the “BLITHERING IDIOT”
Trump said there were “very fine people on both sides”.
One side was a White Supremacist rally.
If he wasn’t talking about White Supremacists he can’t have been talking about anybody who existed, could he ?

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Faith 
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Message 1484 of 5796 (851585)
04-29-2019 7:48 AM
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04-29-2019 7:34 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
What a typical lying Leftist shyster you are. HE COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHITE SUPREMACISTS AS "FINE PEOPLE" AS HE MADE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR MORE THAN ONCE IN THAT VIDEO. YOU NEED A SMACK TO THE HEAD THAT WOULD KNOCK YOU DOWN. ALL YOU BLITHERING LEFTIST IDIOTS NEED THAT SMACK.

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Faith 
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Message 1485 of 5796 (851586)
04-29-2019 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1482 by AZPaul3
04-29-2019 7:34 AM


Re: The Fake News That is Trump
LIAR, DISGUSTING LYING SLANDERER CREEP. APPARENTLY THAT IS THE ONLY KIND OF LEFTIST THERE IS. I WON'T HOLD MY BREATH FOR ANYONE TO COME ALONG WHO KNOWS THE TRUTH. YUCK. YOU PEOPLE ARE VILE.
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