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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Soe why is Trump being singled out? Maybe because he's an asshole and needs to be constantly shouted down?Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Yes, Maryland's Seventh District includes parts of Baltimore. It also includes parts of Columbia, which has been rated as one of the safest communities in the US. The 7th rates above median for average income among Congressional districts, and rates 2nd among black majority districts for both average income and level of education. If the 7th was white majority, would Trump have described it as a rat-infested failure? In fact, if Cummings was a white Republican, he'd probably be praise for the awesome job he's doing. Well, here's the real problem as I see it. If Trump calls it a "rat-infested hellhole," again, that is not the tone or tenor a sitting President needs to be making. But the implication is that it was deliberately said with the goal of making a jab against black people. Look, the DNC has to stop wielding their race-baiting agenda like a hammer. Every time an accusation like that is wielded inappropriately, it dilutes and water-downs legitimate racism and racist rhetoric. This controversial non-controversy is that its a cheap tactic that the DNC has been using in its playbook for a long, long time. Look at the DNC debates... what has garnered the largest attention? The spat between Biden and Harris concerning whether or not Biden is a racist. I mean, curiously he wasn't a racist for the 8 years he worked for a black president... did you hear anyone mention that? Interesting. But now that its an expedient towards defeating him, pull out the racist hammer and bash people over the head with it. I'm no fan of Biden, I think he's a train wreck... but the bigger issue is the way the DNC has weaponized racist accusations. And its the same thing with the border controversy... it must be about "brown people" and not droves of unvetted people streaming across the border. And then there's the obsession with neo-nazi's, which hilariously makes up such a tiny fraction of the population. But hear the way CNN talks about it like there's a large standing army of white nationalists. Lol, what? Its gotta stop... because these kinds of accusations are precisely is what feeding into racial animosity, not ameliorating it.
By strange coincidence, Trump doesn't call these areas rat infested hellholes. Yeah, of course not... that's his base. He thinks of them as "hardworking Americans that got the shaft from the Obama Administration." Its all political bullshit. The Rust Belt sucks.... I wish it didn't. It used the be the envy of the world, but it has deteriorated into a rat-infested hellhole. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
I didn't read the live blog, so I can't speak for what was and was not said.
I do recall though, during the transition before Trump's inauguration, Krugman predicted the markets would react badly to Trump's election. They didn't. Unlike conservative economists, though, Krugman admitted he was wrong and explain the assumptions that went into his prediction and why those assumptions were incorrect. Pretty much what I expect from an authority on a subject if they are to retain my respect.It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Trump said to go back where she came from IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THEIR CRIME PROBLEMS before telling us how to deal with it here. And it's just the usual leftist confusion of a simple practical point with racism. Trump never says anything racist ever, but the left turns ordinary comments about policy and practicality into racism.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9196 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Right wingers have a tendency of believing, without question, anything that reinforces their belief set. There is no attempt to vet the source or find the original source of data. A quick 5 minute search would have exposed issues with the video. Rightwingers seemingly have an inability to tell the difference between actual journalism and propaganda.
Making assertions without data to back it is meaningless. Assertions must have facts to back them. A good sign that an argument is bs is the lack of supporting facts and data. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Speaking of the difference between actual journalism and propaganda, just about all we get from the media these days is propaganda, just like we hear Trump accused of racism all the time though he's never said a racist word.. May I recommend again Mark Levin's latest book, "Unfreedom of the Press."
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
He was explicitly talking about other countries, not their own districts in America:
Trump said to go back where she came from IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THEIR CRIME PROBLEMS before telling us how to deal with it here.quote:And he clearly didn't bother to check the facts about what contries they supposedly came from. All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
You couldn't possibly know that. ... we hear Trump accused of racism all the time though he's never said a racist word.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1469 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Actually it's because he tells it like it is and nobody else does. Baltimore IS a rat-infested hellhole and that's a fact, not racism. I'll name them againj: Elijah Cummings himslef said so, so did the previous mayor of Baltimore, and so did Bernie Sanders.
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JonF Member (Idle past 193 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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You know who gets to decide what's racist? Non-whites.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Actually it's because he tells it like it is and nobody else does. Naw. It's because he's an asshole and needs to be constantly shouted down. The rat-infested hellholes are his son's properties in the district.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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JonF Member (Idle past 193 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Some of Baltimore is a rat-infested hell hole. Some of it is seriously upscale. Much of it is in between.
I'll name them againj: Elijah Cummings himslef said so, so did the previous mayor of Baltimore, and so did Bernie Sanders.
Quotes, please.
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JonF Member (Idle past 193 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Actually none of Kushner's properties are in Cummings' district.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
I stand corrected.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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ooh-child Member (Idle past 369 days) Posts: 242 Joined:
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The spat between Biden and Harris concerning whether or not Biden is a racist. I mean, curiously he wasn't a racist for the 8 years he worked for a black president... did you hear anyone mention that? Interesting. See, you're paying attention to the wrong media sources. She did not accuse him of being racist. In fact, she prefaced her remarks by saying she didn't believe he was racist but, read on... https://www.cnbc.com/...nd-working-with-segregationists.html I ask you to show me in that encounter when she claimed racism on Biden's part. Shame on Tulsi Gabbard for mangling the Harris/Biden exchange, and shame on you too.
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