Religion is Evil!

MrHambre: "simply because I happen to have different opinions on spiritual or philosophical matters, I'm 'despicable,' as well as 'below contempt.'"
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Olla.. Colla down Senor Hambre, Stephen wrote:
"An agnostic, who simply doesn't know something, is responsible to learn. To ignore some source of knowledge is to be ignorant, which is disrespectable, even despicable."I think it was meant for an Agnostic who knows nothing but doesn't want to learn anything. I don't think he meant that for all Agnostic guys out there.
Anyway.. nice counter.
(Just an oppinion)

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An agnostic, who simply doesn't know something, is responsible to learn. To ignore some source of knowledge is to be ignorant, which is disrespectable, even despicable. Anyone who is agnostic who is not applying themselves to learning, to dispelling their lack of knowledge, is below contempt.

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Sounds like you are in big trouble then considering your complete lack of knowledge about molecular biology and evolution.

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The most important thing to learn, for a human, is the rules for learning, for knowing.

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Your Christ like humbleness in telling everyone what is the most important for them is astounding.

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If they decide, in other words, that the current state of their knowledge or lack of knowledge is fine, that the ideas they believe in are so sure to be true that they needn't examine them, well, the sooner they are destroyed, the better. My job then is simply to expose this decision, so God can justly get rid of them, the way our farmers get rid of mad-cows or bird-flu chickens.

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Sounds like god (played by Al Pacino) is coming to rub you out since you have demonstrated absolutely no interest in learning since you entered this site and have repeatedly demonstrated that you are very comfortable with your ignorance....and why are the cows mad cows? According to you they are merely possessed by demons since they sure fart a lot. It is also ironic that you claim that pointing out the "bad people " to your myth is your job...at least you ackowledge that your profession is not science.

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First, God Himself, if He is out there as described and believed, is perfect love

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..and boy what an example of perfect love or the striving to imitate perfect love you are You have taken hypocrisy to a state of near perfection however.

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Disbelieving in Him will therefore cause Him perfect pain.

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...then he should create ex nihilo the perfect gas relief pill (to get rid of those demons) to get rid of the perfect pain.

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If you have ever had someone you love turn away from and ignore (be ignorant of) you, you know what this means.

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Some of us have been spared this misfortune by not treating our loved ones like shit, acting psychotically, and driving them away with our arrogance leading in a bitter divorce...you obviously in your perfect jesus like love were not spared...plausibility of demons/Jehovah just dropped from 0 to -0.1

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Also, when a great, passionate lover is betrayed or ignored, life becomes miserable for their whole household. "When momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy." Again, the wrath of a passionate lover when their beloved is hurt by someone, is terrible. When someone ignorant of the great lover purposely or accidently harms, say, their beloved little child, expect trouble.

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Ooooh I saw that episode to...wasn't it the Waltons? or was it Falcon Crest?

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Second, the rest of us need the believing prayers of everyone. Anyone not praying is leaving the rest of us open to evil, the worse kind of evil.

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Those who approach you with anything but a gag and straight jacket are opening themselves up to the worst kind of nonsense.

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Well, that's enough. If you are agnostic, get busy. Find a wise teacher that you know personally, and ask them to teach you applied epistemology, how you know whether or not a given idea is likely to be true. Or be contemptible by folks like me.

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Well, that't enough. Get busy. Get a good psychiatrist, get some strong medication, up your electro shock therapy voltage and spend the rest of your life trying to form a coherent thought.You could easily be in the top twenty reasons to become an atheist...who wants to be such an feeble minded bigot jackass like you?Get over yourself Stephen ben hypocrisy

He has repeatedly aimed his comments at anyone who disagrees with him..not just agnostics.

Well, mammuthus I must say this: You may be intellectually arrogant, but you are NOT self righteously arrogant! Can we talk?

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You may be intellectually arrogant

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ok, I'll bite...why?

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, but you are NOT self righteously arrogant

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I know I know..but I am working on it

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Can we talk

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Sure..or we can dance if we want to but we have to leave your friends behind, because if your friends can't dance they are no friends of mine

Phatboy Ok you get it... but you still respect your God and I guess I respect you for that.... ALthough I don't understand how you can.... But Chris... I am sorry you missed the point and I really don't want to explain it again no offence[This message has been edited by DC85, 02-20-2004]

Mammuthus: "He has repeatedly aimed his comments at anyone who disagrees with him..not just agnostics."
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Ah...is that so?
Well, I have nothing to say then. Hope he also learn from this too.DC85: "I am sorry you missed the point and I really don't want to explain it again no offence."
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Then.. we both missed the point.
No prob, DC. If you want to ask about it, just let me know the link to the thread.Best wishes.

I suppose if a evil person is actively engaging in a evil religion then under these circumstances religion could be considered evil. Of course you still have the active particpate of this evil religion absoultley convinced that his religion is the only right one.
So I guess it is a matter of ones individual perception. Oh... wait .. that opens up a whole can of evil little worms doesn't it.

Arrogance takes many forms. In observing some fundamentalists, one is struck by their presupposition that the world is exactly how they see it. Bolstered by faith in God, they tend
to hide their ignorance behind other peoples websites and behind the Bible itself. They have placed their entire identity on a source of wisdom. In their defense, they believe the wisdom to be beyond human wisdom. Intellectuals can be self righteous in that they have studied many different sources of knowledge and wisdom. Some of them are still humble enough to acknowledge a power greater than themselves yet for many of them, the only thing greater than themselves is the collective wisdom and reason of humanity. They can not or will not conceive of a God that is mightier than this. Seeking to objectify God apart from Jesus Christ, they construct a God in their minds who surely must be unfair. Smiting people, wiping out entire nations, refusing to cure Typus or prevent widespread human suffering: What kind of God is this? It is one whom they have defined. For a true believer, however, God has been encountered. This encounter is more than a chance vision or experience. This encounter is ongoing. The relationship cannot be denied or wished away. To do so would be to deny reality itself. From a believers perspective, I'm Phatboy...signing out.

I dont think that the only solution is to prevent the Preist from comeing to one's death bed (monod's idea) but although I may think there is more to the "gene account" than Gould is willing to debit or credit I highly disrespect the notion of genes. I have not tried to make any two negatives from this into a location of sin nor do I say where "sin is located" as I had not studied to be a relgious leader. I did however recognize a choice between that and a student of "evolution" practically. There is no reason that one can not be both. I am nt. Thanks. I agree to disagree if you do.

Just want to add something here.I see people say that they are Atheists, don't believe in God. But they hate Christianity and hate Jesus Christ. Isn't that what we called anti-Christ? Isn't it also religion?
If you don't believe in God or.. Jesus Christ in this matter, don't hate Him or maybe deep inside your heart you believe that He exists but you just don't want to admit it, because of your own reasoning.
And you try to kill that little voice in your heart by hating Him.. you made a bad choice.
(Just an oppinion).

...I see. And it's what, your mental telepathy that allows you to come to that conclusion?How could somebody hate something that doesn't exist?[This message has been edited by crashfrog, 02-20-2004]

...I see. And it's what, your mental telepathy that allows you to come to that conclusion?
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I saw it myself & I don't want to point on people, since I said "just an oppinion" (don't want to make it a discussion and don't want to flame others)."How could somebody hate something that doesn't exist?"
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That's why I said this:
"maybe deep inside your heart you believe that He exists but you just don't want to admit it, because of your own reasoning.
And you try to kill that little voice in your heart by hating Him."
(I don't have mental telepaty, but at least I still have little reasoning).

Or, alternatively, we genuinely believe that your god doesn't exist, and it's rather rude of you to call us all liars. Just a thought.

"and it's rather rude of you to call us all liars. Just a thought."
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Did I use the word "all"? And who used the word "liars"?I quess my english is hard to understand:
"maybe deep inside your heart you believe that He exists but you just don't want to admit it, because of your own reasoning."
What I meant, you don't want to admit it, because you think it's impossible. Did you see word "liars"? Please..If you don't feel you are an Atheist and hate my God. Just go on with it, ignore it. While I also use "just an oppinion".
It's just an oppinion for people who are Atheist and hate my God.
But, since you feel offended, maybe you are...
If you don't feel like that, just ignore this post.