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Percy
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Message 346 of 1429 (895822)
07-21-2022 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 337 by Tanypteryx
07-20-2022 6:44 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
He's doing God's work, or at least he thinks he is. Unfortunately for him, when he reaches the Pearly Gates he'll discover that God, as the creator of all the processes of life, is an evolutionist. God might even comment on how weird it is that most of those who make it into heaven either never believed in him, ignored him, or harbored serious doubts, while the ones who most slavishly followed a book written by men tend to end up in the other place.
--Percy

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Message 347 of 1429 (895823)
07-21-2022 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 253 by Parasomnium
06-25-2022 4:47 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
But Darwinists (esp the atheist variety) believe that ToE is more than a theory - they believe it is a fact.
Parasomnium writes:
No, they don't.
Hilarious. Every Darwinist believes ToE is a fact - that why they're called Darwinists.

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Message 348 of 1429 (895824)
07-21-2022 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 346 by Percy
07-21-2022 8:52 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Percy writes:
He's doing God's work, or at least he thinks he is. Unfortunately for him, when he reaches the Pearly Gates he'll discover that God, as the creator of all the processes of life, is an evolutionist.
You still don't get it - I'm not disputing that evolution happened.
Please pay attention!

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Dredge
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Message 349 of 1429 (895825)
07-21-2022 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 257 by Tanypteryx
06-26-2022 5:27 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Tanypteryx writes:
I wonder if any Atheist Darwinists would agree with your fairness? So, you can read the thoughts of a subset of atheists and a subset Darwinists and even better, you know what they believe? How many of these guys are there? Got any names?
All the atheists on this site, for example, believe that the history of life on earth proceeded according to ToE.
Go on atheist sites and try to find an atheist who doesn't believe that the history of life on earth proceeded according to ToE. Good luck.

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ringo
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Message 350 of 1429 (895826)
07-21-2022 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 341 by Dredge
07-21-2022 12:54 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
All creationists are evil.
No. Some of them are just stupid.
Dredge writes:
... evil people - such as creationists - are products of evilution.
Evil people are often products of religion.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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Message 351 of 1429 (895827)
07-21-2022 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 343 by Dredge
07-21-2022 5:05 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
... therefore your science is irrelevant....
When your conclusion is nonsensical, either your premises are false or your reasoning is fallacious. Or both.
And your conclusion is obviously nonsensical. Our science cures diseases and puts men on the moon. No sensible person would call it irrelevant.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
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Message 352 of 1429 (895828)
07-21-2022 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 347 by Dredge
07-21-2022 10:15 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
Every Darwinist believes ToE is a fact - that why they're called Darwinists.
They're only called Darwinists by idiots.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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Dredge
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Message 353 of 1429 (895829)
07-21-2022 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 352 by ringo
07-21-2022 11:59 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
A Darwinist is someone who believes that the history of life on earth proceeded according to ToE, which is based on the theory proposed by Charles Darwin.
So "Darwinist" is a rational and apt moniker, I should think.

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Percy
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Message 354 of 1429 (895830)
07-21-2022 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 347 by Dredge
07-21-2022 10:15 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
Hilarious. Every Darwinist believes ToE is a fact...
First, people who accept the theory of evolution as the explanation for life's history are not called Darwinists except by creationists like yourself.
Second, scientists understand that theories are not facts. That goes for the theory of relativity, quantum theory, and all other theories, including the theory of evolution. Theories are frameworks of understanding constructed around bodies of evidence.
But the larger question is what the hell is the matter with you. You've been told this numerous times, yet you keep spouting it as if the correct information had never been provided. This suggests a person behaving in a most unChristianlike fashion by attempting to waste as much of the time of individuals he disagrees with as possible, instead of constructively seeking mutual understanding and common ground and just plain treating people right.
...that's why they're called Darwinists.
Here's an idea for the next time you're in confession: "Father forgive me for I have sinned. I keep saying things that I know are false about people who accept the theory of evolution because it annoys them and wastes their time."
--Percy

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ringo
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Message 355 of 1429 (895831)
07-21-2022 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 353 by Dredge
07-21-2022 12:30 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
A Darwinist is someone who believes that the history of life on earth proceeded according to ToE, which is based on the theory proposed by Charles Darwin.
Someone who understands that the history of life on earth proceeded according to ToE is called a sensible person, an intelligent person, a science-minded person, a realist. We don't call ourselves Darwinists or Newtonists or Einsteinists.
Dredge writes:
So "Darwinist" is a rational and apt moniker, I should think.
You should think but you don't. You have admitted your own lack of intelligence.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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Percy
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Message 356 of 1429 (895832)
07-21-2022 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 348 by Dredge
07-21-2022 10:22 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
Percy writes:
He's doing God's work, or at least he thinks he is. Unfortunately for him, when he reaches the Pearly Gates he'll discover that God, as the creator of all the processes of life, is an evolutionist.
You still don't get it - I'm not disputing that evolution happened.
I said God is an evolutionist, and as such he accepts as fact that evolution happened and accepts the theory of evolution as the explanation for how evolution takes place, both today and in the past.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 357 of 1429 (895833)
07-21-2022 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 349 by Dredge
07-21-2022 11:33 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
All the atheists on this site, for example, believe that the history of life on earth proceeded according to ToE.
Why are you singling out atheists? Most people who accept the ToE believe in God.
Since you're one of those people who like to play word games by interchanging casual and strict word definitions, it would be more accurate to say that most people of a scientific bent tentatively accept the theory of evolution as the explanation for life's history.
--Percy

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Message 358 of 1429 (895834)
07-21-2022 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 344 by AZPaul3
07-21-2022 6:36 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
AZPaul3 writes:
stupidly asinine 
Please be advised that not even a hint of stupidity or asininity can be found in any of my missives.

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Message 359 of 1429 (895835)
07-21-2022 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 357 by Percy
07-21-2022 12:53 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Percy writes:
Why are you singling out atheists? 
Please be advised that ToE is a product of atheism and is the religion of atheists.

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Dredge
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Message 360 of 1429 (895836)
07-21-2022 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 342 by AZPaul3
07-21-2022 2:13 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
AZPaul3 writes:
My theory is that the more devout, the more stupid a SFC would be.
There might be something to your theory - I am devout and I am stupid

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